You don’t see the difference between throwing a shit fit and publicly demanding that China write a letter ensuring human rights on a every single extradition versus having a standing treaty for the last 10 years with the USA?
Don’t you see that as a separate issue? Two things can be bad at once so either you believe China is not doing what the USA is doing or you do and don’t care because the USA extradition treaty makes that okay.
The USA extradition treaty doesn’t matter for this. That is still going to suck no matter what.
It’s one issue - Will the EHCR throw a hissy fit, go public with criticism, and engage in legal fuckery for EVERY extradition or just some extraditions? If it’s just some which, ones? If it’s the ones where the prisoners might face human rights violations, great! Now let’s look at their behavior? Oh shit, double standard?! How bad is the double standard? Wow, a decade of a standing agreement to rubber stamp ALL extraditions to the USA vs screaming about a Chinese “businessman”. That seems like a really unbalanced behavior. What’s the justification?
Consequently, the ECHR exempted Liu from having to prove a specific personal risk, given that the extradition request indicated that, once in China, he would be placed in a detention center, which was “sufficient” to deny the extradition. “An individual requesting protection must be guaranteed the benefit of the doubt,” reads the judgment of October 6, 2022.
So literally the extradition request says please extradite a criminal for the purposes of imprisonment, which is literally what extradition is for, and the fact that it’s a request for extradition is grounds to deny the request?
This isn’t even a double standard at this point. It’s pure bullshit.
No, we’re not arguing about whether China or the USA is bad or worse or bad at the same time. We’re arguing about the behavior of the EHCR, European lawyers, European media, and European states. And my position is that the entire suite of behavior is completely informed by politicized sinophobia.
freagle@lemmygrad.ml 1 month ago
You don’t see the difference between throwing a shit fit and publicly demanding that China write a letter ensuring human rights on a every single extradition versus having a standing treaty for the last 10 years with the USA?
SnortsGarlicPowder@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Don’t you see that as a separate issue? Two things can be bad at once so either you believe China is not doing what the USA is doing or you do and don’t care because the USA extradition treaty makes that okay.
The USA extradition treaty doesn’t matter for this. That is still going to suck no matter what.
freagle@lemmygrad.ml 5 weeks ago
It’s one issue - Will the EHCR throw a hissy fit, go public with criticism, and engage in legal fuckery for EVERY extradition or just some extraditions? If it’s just some which, ones? If it’s the ones where the prisoners might face human rights violations, great! Now let’s look at their behavior? Oh shit, double standard?! How bad is the double standard? Wow, a decade of a standing agreement to rubber stamp ALL extraditions to the USA vs screaming about a Chinese “businessman”. That seems like a really unbalanced behavior. What’s the justification?
So literally the extradition request says please extradite a criminal for the purposes of imprisonment, which is literally what extradition is for, and the fact that it’s a request for extradition is grounds to deny the request?
This isn’t even a double standard at this point. It’s pure bullshit.
No, we’re not arguing about whether China or the USA is bad or worse or bad at the same time. We’re arguing about the behavior of the EHCR, European lawyers, European media, and European states. And my position is that the entire suite of behavior is completely informed by politicized sinophobia.