Comment on The European Commission says it is investigating Pornhub, Stripchat, XNXX, and XVideos for potential child safety Digital Services Act (DSA) violations “as a matter of priority”

surph_ninja@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• gian@lemmy.grys.it ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  In most of EU there are laws that forbid minors to access some products (like, you cannot sell alcool to minors). Don’t see as fascist to make those laws respected.

  I mean, if a minor buys a liquor from a store and it is caught, the store pays a fine (or it is temporary closed or whatever the law says), why should be a company that sell pornography (or enable to watch it) not be responsible the same way ? Just because it is on internet and it is a US company ?

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  • surph_ninja@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yes, I am familiar with the ‘think of the children!’ Trojan horse tactic.

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    • gian@lemmy.grys.it ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      So in your opinion even the ban to sell alcool to minors is in the “think of the children” category ?

      Anyway, the ban to sell pornography to minors date way before internet so what’s the point ? EU is not making a new law, it merely try to look if these companies respect them.

      Then I could agree that back at the time, when you need to go to the newsstand to buy “the product” the check was easy and now it is everything but easy. Back at the time you just need to show your ID and that’s all, the newsagent would never remember you and have nothing about you to be stoles.
      Now the only problem I see is that the data you could send to verify you are an adult will be stolen (and sold) and that is a problem.

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      • Cort@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        No, I’d liken it to an adult giving a child alcohol. I don’t know of any children who pay for their own Internet access.

        If your liquor cabinet at home isn’t locked, and your kid steals some, it isn’t any different than not having a locked down Internet connection.

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      • surph_ninja@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Literally no one but you is arguing about minors accessing porn.

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  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Meaning, the parents shouldn’t let the child buy stuff on pornhub?

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    • gian@lemmy.grys.it ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Meaning, the seller should not allow the minor to buy stuff on pornhub.

      The law did not say that the minor could not try to buy pornography from the newsstand (or whatever else is forbidden to him) but that the seller could not sell to him.
      Same here, a minor could try to buy, the seller must not sell to him. That is valid also for accessing the site.

      So I fully agree that the EU comission check if this laws is respected also on internet.

      For me the only thing to discuss about this is the “how it is done” which can be an interesting discusssion in itself.

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      • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        But it’s not about selling online but about access. Which is parental responsibility.

        Why do we restrict porn at 16 anyway? Make it 13 to make more sense.

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