Comment on Fortnite returns to iPhone app store in US, ending exile imposed by Apple

• GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I have maybe a handful of people on lemmy tagged, if that. That means, those where the most stupid, ignorant, obnoxious, disingenious people, or otherwise not worth of serious discourse, to the point i felt it necessary to remember that with a tag.

  Now this guy i have put down as “that weird guy who really loves corporations”. Make of that what you want for your conversation.

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• FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  57% US market share. This decision has no bearing on any other market, and to expand the view to the global market is disingenuous.

  So well outside of monopoly territory. Thanks for checking :)

  You don’t have that option with the iPhone.

  And you’re not entitled to that option. It’s apples product and they don’t have to build ways for competitors to eat their lunch, nor should they. If you want a platform that allows you to install stuff from any source, get an android phone or one that does.

  Yes, they do. Especially when that platform is synonymous with 57% of the hardware in use.

  Why? 57% is far, FAR, below where anti-competition and anti-trust rules come in to play.

  Ironic.

  Says the guy who thinks 57% market share in a market with 2 players is a monopoly lol.

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  • KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I mean sure, ignoring the fact that the justice department is actively suing Apple for being a monopoly, Apple isn’t a monopoly.

    Ignoring the fact that a court of law ordered the situation being reported on, there’s no reason Apple should have to do what they are doing.

    As long as we ignore reality, the things you’re claiming make perfect sense.

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    • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      FYI, this person is a sealion. Their MO is stringing people along with bad faith arguments in an attempt to waste their time.

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      • KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Appreciated, just threw a user tag on them so I can ignore them in the future.

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    • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I mean sure, ignoring the fact that the justice department is actively suing Apple for being a monopoly, Apple isn’t a monopoly.

      They’re accusing them of having a monopoly. That doesn’t mean they have a monopoly. Remember, the FTC sued Microsoft to try and stop them buying Activision because they claimed that would give them a monopoly on “high powered gaming consoles” despite Playstation - the clear market leader for 5 generations straight - outselling them 3:1 at the time, and probably closer to 10:1 right now. Not every lawsuit wins. The government aren’t always right.

      Also courts ruled in this very case that Apple do not have a monopoly:

      Notably, Gonzalez Rogers found that Apple wasn’t a monopoly, but rather a duopoly alongside Google, which was engaged in a similar legal battle with Epic over the Google Play store.

      Ignoring the fact that a court of law ordered the situation being reported on, there’s no reason Apple should have to do what they are doing.

      I’m saying no court or government should be allowed to order a business to allow someone to sell something on their store, or build functionality for them to be able to have their own store on a device. It’s absurd.

      Apple weren’t ordered by the courts to put the game back on the store btw. They were ordered to not reject applications for the store based on them linking to an outside payment method. The Judge said if they rejected the application for any reason they would need to go to court AGAIN to prove that it wasn’t because of that. Apple just approved it instead.

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  • masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    My fucking god youre both remarkably dumb, and remarkably confident in how dumb you are.

    Please do us all a favour and go and read the Wikipedia article on anti-competitive behaviour and anti-competition laws before commenting.

    And just in case you lack the mental faculties to actually parse that Wikipedia article, the key lesson we’re looking for you to learn is that you do not need a a monopoly to behave anti-competitively, you just need market power.

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    • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They don’t have dominant market share, so everything you just said is irrelevant.

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      • masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        [citation needed]

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