Comment on The term carrot and stick doesn't sit well with me. If you hit a donkey with a stick then it's likely it won't trust you enough to accept a carrot later.

• over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I asked for before the enshittification era.

  I’m not about to trust a controversial article that could have been manipulated by almost anyone these days.

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  • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carrot_and_s…

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    • over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I do appreciate you for looking into older references, but I was hoping for some articles from before the digital era, like a scan or three from a couple encyclopedias or other relevant articles before the modern digital era.

      Find me something from like 1950-60 and I might be more inclined to believe it. Other than that, given my life experience, I tend to believe what I literally learned on the horse ranch.

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      • nexas_XIII@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Honestly, people have given you examples. If you want examples from pre-internet then you should do some work yourself to find it.

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  • Evthestrike@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Dude the Wikipedia article proves that both metaphors are correct

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    • over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Ok, nice. 👍

      Have a good day.

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  • Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    You can just go look at the sources of the article man.

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    • over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I don’t need to look at the articles, I literally grew up on a horse/donkey/goat ranch. Besides, why would I look into articles suggesting to abuse the farm animals?

      I bet most everyone, including the Wikipedia article writers, and even the references they mention, most of them have probably never even rode a horse or donkey before. I have though.

      There are proper ways of training large farm animals, and beating them with a stick isn’t one. That’s straight up animal abuse. And such large animals will quickly remind you who is in charge by stomping your skull in.

      I learned how to peacefully and safely train animals. Dangle a carrot in front of a donkey, you can guide it around all day, until the work shift is over and you guide it to the food trough.

      Why is everyone sharing links on how to beat animals with sticks, when I’m literally explaining from experience that there are much better ways to train farm animals?

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      • Flickerby@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        You’re approaching this from the wrong direction. No one is saying this is the correct way to raise animals, everyone is just saying this is LITERALLY what the phrase means.

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      • Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        OK, cool? Your experience doesn’t mean this doesn’t happen though, and no one is saying this is any kind of proper way to train an animal.

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