Many people can get the same results by talking to a plastic duck or doing nothing at all. It works for some people, the rest of us consider it a pseudoscience at best.
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NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You can, it’s called therapy.
db2@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
rikudou@lemmings.world 1 year ago
Then don’t think about it as a science, but as getting help from someone trained to help you. As an example, do you need firefighters to be scientists to get help from them when your house is burning?
db2@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
Kind of yeah, air currents are basically fluid dynamics.
rikudou@lemmings.world 1 year ago
Doesn’t mean your firefighter is a scientist, which was my point.
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Weird thing to say, but, therapy is not a pseudoscience.
601error@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
I know the evidence says that therapy works in general, but yeah, it’s difficult to believe. And to be honest, I’d rather take a pill than talk to a therapist, all else being equal.
rikudou@lemmings.world 1 year ago
Well, I can only advise to at least try it.
Mowcherie@lemmy.world 1 year ago
And keep trying until you find the right therapist/therapy that works for you. There is huge variation in quality and effectiveness.
Cubes@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I have gone through some trauma therapy that has helped where no talk therapy has been able to. There are lots of studies showing the effectiveness too. Look up EMDR or brain spotting.
I really just have to push back on the “doing nothing at all” or “talking to a rubber duck” piece because I’d been trying that for years and trauma flashbacks don’t seem just go away on their own.
Mowcherie@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Brainspotting has been lifechanging for me. Took me decades to find it though.
db2@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
So it works for you and that’s okay. That’s why I made the edit.
Cubes@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I still somewhat take issue with that characterization though. It doesn’t just “work for me and that’s okay,” it works period. It has been clinically shown to work for other people too. I only say this because spreading misinformation about it being “pseudoscience” and ineffective only serves to continue some people’s pain and never find an effective treatment for them, and I believe that’s potentially dangerous.
Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 1 year ago
Which, like every mental health treatment, only works for a subset of people.
pizzahoe@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Most of my friends who have tried therapy just leave after a session or two and claim their problems have gone away, dodge further sessions and never actually gave it a real try. Then a week later they will go through the same issues again. It sucks to see them this way… I’ve tried to help them to go to therapy consistently but very few actually do.
You can’t solve 20 years worth of emotional issues in a few sessions… it takes years of therapy to actually get better. Not to mention societal stigma against going to therapy makes it even harder.
Aielman15@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Years of therapy cost a LOT of money though, not everyone can afford that.
rikudou@lemmings.world 1 year ago
As the pizza hoe mentioned, it’s very country dependent. Where I live, therapists are, like other medical specialists, paid from taxes, so free at the point of use (not all of them, they need some licenses etc.). Or you can pay for them out of pocket if you want.
pizzahoe@lemm.ee 1 year ago
This is very location dependent. I live in India and an hour of therapy session costs around 15$(average bill if two people eat at a normal restaurant to put things into perspective).
If you can’t afford that, don’t worry as many not for profit organisations exist which will help you with free therapy. But this comes at the cost of therapists who themselves are paid like shit. But none of this applies to my friends because their job is ready to pay(your boss can’t find out you go to therapy btw) in case they want therapy but they still are hesitant. It’s more to do with how people will perceive you if they hear you’re going to therapy.
Riyria@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
Yeah, but when therapy costs $100-$200 per session and is not always covered by health insurance (in the US at least) what else are you going to do? In most places in the US it’s also very very very hard to get in to see an actual Psychologist, and nigh on impossible to get in to a Psychiatrist, so most people are stuck with LSCWs who are not competent at all, and often times make matters worse. Mental healthcare in the US is an absolute joke.