Comment on Even Starfield's community patch modders are growing 'disenchanted' with the sci-fi RPG, as volunteers depart in droves: 'If nobody comes forward, we may have to retire the project'

• chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  All of your criticisms are spot on. The only thing is disagree with is the story. I thought it was alright. Some of the side quests were great, but there weren’t a lot of those.

  I really enjoyed the ship building, but it was extremely limited and unbalanced.

  I will say the loading screens didn’t bother me, though.

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  • spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The only thing is disagree with is the story. I thought it was alright.

    It was barely alright up until the end and you basically do a NewGame+ in the most boring and lazy way possible; go through this gateway to a ‘new dimension’ that’s exactly the same as this one. About the time I saw that I immediately quit and uninstalled. I couldn’t care less if there is a better story after you NG+ it however many more times, I couldn’t stand playing through that game again.

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  • argh_another_username@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The ship building is convoluted, difficult to establish where the doors/passageways will be. My beef is with the guns selection. We have several classes of guns but they all get mixed up in the menu.

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    • chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I love NMS, and I think it’s a better game than Starfield overall. But they’re extremely different.

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      • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Their overall premises differ a lot, but it’s very easy to see that a lot of the “exploration” in SF tried to copy NMS, but did so in the worst way possible.

        Scanning plants and wildlife? Turn on scan mode and find those. Only in Starfield, you have to do it several times to complete, because FUN!

        Points of interest dotting the planet surface? Sure! Just make sure they have zero connection to anything in both games!

        Space exploration? Just a random dice roll when you enter a planet orbi, clearly better than using an item to search for a random POI in space!

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• halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s Skyrim with a coat of lead paint.

  It’s been clear for over a decade that the Creation Engine (let’s be honest it’s still Gamebryo) has run its course. It is not a viable option for a modern game anymore. It has architectural limitations that simply prevent a modern gaming experience.

  There have been so many Creation Engine apologists since Oblivion trying to justify its continued existence through multiple new Fallout and Elder Scrolls games, always trying to say that it’s fine. Starfield was the chance to prove that the limitations aren’t actually architectural and that it could be used for a modern game. Clearly that’s not the case. Taking just about any other modern open world RPG to directly compare, Starfield feels like crap in comparison. Hell, even the launch version of Cyberpunk felt better than Starfield.

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  • Supervisor194@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s been clear for over a decade that the Creation Engine (let’s be honest it’s still Gamebryo) has run its course. It is not a viable option for a modern game anymore. It has architectural limitations that simply prevent a modern gaming experience.

    And yet, I’m having a blast with Oblivion Remastered. The problem with Starfield is that the writing sucks and the game loops aren’t fun. Because of these things it’s an unforgivable bore. Oblivion proves you’ll trudge back and forth and deal with all the copied and pasted caves in the world if the story is engaging and the gameplay loop is fun. The dated graphics engine has little to do with Starfield’s problems.

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    • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The graphics aren’t the problem. The Creation Engine is not just graphics, it handles everything about how the game works. How the AI works and responds to events, how NPCs handle tasks even when not actively interacting with the player, etc. Graphics is only one part of a game, and that’s not the source of the issues.

      Oblivion Remastered still uses the Gamebryo engine from Oblivion for everything with one exception, Unreal now handles the graphics. That’s why the game is nearly identical to the original in every way except graphics, it is.

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      • PapstJL4U@lemmy.world [bot] ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The other person literally said Oblivion is good despite the engine being 80% gamebryo. Don’t write like AI and ignore context. The stuff that is really bad in Starfield is the design philosophy of autogenerated content. This is entirely different from the engine choice.

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      • MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        But really you could make a fantastic game with the engine they had and starfield could have been good if it had great writing and great characters and quests. If people loved it and had some gripes about technical limitations that would be one thing. It’s an okay game with technical limitations, that makes it a bad game.

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• TachyonTele@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  “Starfield is my dream game.”
  -Todd Howard

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