I know, right? It just happened last week!
Comment on Second US Navy jet is lost at sea from Truman aircraft carrier
LordWiggle@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Why is this in the news. This happens more often than you think.
Godric@lemmy.world 6 days ago
LordWiggle@lemmy.world 5 days ago
It happens often. It’s like school shootings. When it’s a regular thing, is not in the news anymore.
Tikiporch@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Sounds like it would be easy to find a citation for your claim, then.
LordWiggle@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Tikiporch@lemmy.world 5 days ago
I’m not trying to move the goalposts or anything – and appreciate you providing some context to your claim! – but class A mishaps start at $2.5mil, and these are $70mil jets, which I think is what makes it noteworthy when you combine it with the quick turnaround.
LordWiggle@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Engine fire leading to ejection. Event Cost $71,000,000 Two CH-53 helicopters crashed while on training flight. All 12 crewmembers deceased. AV-8B experience catastrophic engine failure during takeoff. Event Cost $62,800,000 AV-8B experienced loss of thrust, pilot ejected safely. Event Cost $62,800,000 2xF/A-18F Collided during Air-to-Air training. 2 aircraft lost. No fatalities. Event Cost $173,580,662
The list goes on and on. Remember, only 2.5mil damage with these expensive aircraft is hard. Most accidents lead to complete loss of aircraft. Minor damage already runs into many millions of dollars. Even a minor error during landing on a carrier results in a ditch in sea most of the time. When there is an issue during take off, flight or landing, ejection is standard procedure. This leads to complete loss of aircraft. It can be a result from poor maintenance, constant exposure of sea water, bad weather, human error, etc.
ramble81@lemm.ee 6 days ago
That’s like saying “why are measles news? It happens more often than you think”
The point is: it shouldn’t be happening. We’re starting to see outward signs of a decaying system. If their personnel were correctly trained, with following proper procedures (for example, securing all equipment and vehicles to the deck) this wouldn’t happen.
It’s news because “it’s happening” period.
LordWiggle@lemmy.world 6 days ago
I’ve served in the navy for 15 years. Never have I ever seen any navy more incompetent than the US navy. Once I even singlehandedly prevented them from shooting down their own helicopter which returned from Germany back to their ship from a medevac. The helicopter forgot to turn on their IFF transponder and the ship was shouting warnings on the wrong channel. Once I met a navigation officer who didn’t know port was red and starboard was green. How can you be a navigation officer, the standard buoys are red and green. It’s like a baker who has no clue what yeast is. During one of my deployments there was bad weather and a US carrier in the vicinity lost 3 aircraft and had 2 badly damaged because they forgot to tell the deck crew there would be bad weather so the aircraft weren’t properly locked to the deck. Oopsie. Once on the Mediterranean there was an Arleigh Burke demanding all other shipping to stay clear 10 nmi to avoid collision. This was nearly impossible and would disrupt all traffic, because ships were sailing through shipping channels. 10 nmi is ~18.5 km. Once during an exercise they accidentally shot a Turkish ship pretending to be the enemy with real ammo, destroying the bridge and killing everyone on it including their captain and commander. That’s why Turkey now has 4 OHP frigates.
I can go on and on about how stupid the US navy is. I have loads of stories, can’t even count them.
MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Take away the water from your stories and you have the US Army.
LordWiggle@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Nah, they aren’t stupid. It’s not like they would be engaged in a war for over 20 years with nomads armed with rusted AK’s and still lose or something. It’s not like blue on blue ever happens.