Comment on “No Apple tax means we will lower prices” - Proton announces lower prices for users by up to 30% after US ruling against Apple fees

• lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Every company who takes a cut from in-app purchases, be it subscriptions or DLC, should be kneecapped by this ruling.

  It’s one thing to take a cut from purchasing a game/app/whatever from whatever market it’s hosted on, it’s a whole other issue to keep reaching further into the dev’s pockets and take a cut from in-app purchases unrelated to the initial marketplace where the game/app was obtained.

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  • Greercase@lemmus.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    That just turns paid apps into splash screens for in-app purchases though. That way apple never gets a cut because the “purchase” is in-app. Pay to be listed (maybe tiered depending on downloads) seems fair especially because it doesn’t incentivize people to do scammy things with pricing. It’s already a fee anyway.

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    • lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      That just turns paid apps into splash screens for in-app purchases though

      Welcome to Android lol

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      • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        “This app is Free!”

        *opens app*

        “Psyche! Get your credit card out…”

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  • lepinkainen@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I’m not entirely optimistic about this ruling, but we’ll see.

    Apple had no reason NOT to give refunds and then use their weight to claw it back from the app developer.

    But what happens when scammy apps use non-AppStore scammy stores to unlock features in an app?

    In a perfect world it’s cheap and easy and reliable.

    But it can also be a scammy shop that lures you into expensive subscriptions with no easy way to cancel them (eg. gym membership) and what happens when Little Timmy spends $9000 for Nlartbux in a mobile game’s external store?

    Could go either way 🤷🏻‍♂️

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    • lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I’m not entirely optimistic about this ruling, but we’ll see.

      Apple had no reason NOT to give refunds and then use their weight to claw it back from the app developer.

      Greed.

      But what happens when not-too-legit apps use non-AppStore external sites to unlock features in an app?

      We already have that on Android. We manage just fine.

      In a perfect world it’s cheap and easy and reliable.

      But it can also be a scammy shop that lures you into expensive subscriptions with no easy way to cancel them (eg. gym membership) and what happens when Little Timmy spends $9000 for Nlartbux in a mobile game’s external store?

      Could be. Again, sideloading on Android is a thing already. Multiple alternative markets exist, and some shops are scammy as fuck. Google has already put protections in place to prevent sideloading potentially harmful apps, but the savvy user who knows how to bypass that should* know how to spot a harmful app.

      Could go either way 🤷🏻‍♂️

      “For your security” was never about security.

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    • cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      what happens when Little Timmy spends $9000 for Nlartbux in a mobile game’s external store?

      That’s why you don’t put your credit card info in a phone or tablet and let kids play with it.

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      • lepinkainen@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        And still people do it, they even give their own devices to kids with CC info pre-filled and no safeties on purchases.

        Imagine how bad it is when the next fake ad game gets Timmy to subscribe to a $99/day gem pack…

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• hikaru755@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  What? Since when does Valve prohibit companies from redirecting customers to non-Valve purchasing flows? Because that’s what this ruling is about, it says Apple can’t prohibit apps from telling users to go buy off-platform for lower prices. Valve isn’t doing that with Steam afaik, actually I not aware of any other platform that does this

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  • JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Valve will even allow developers to create their own Steam keys free of charge and sell them wherever they want with no commission whatsoever

    That’s pretty open I’d say

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    • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Lol, as long as you properly plan in advance and coordinate such a thing, not the way that uh… Dead Matter tried to do it.

      Dear god what a fustercluck.

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  • kbotc@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Any of the video game companies.

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• TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  They literally do not lol

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• Serinus@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Here comes the Steam defenders.

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  • ExtantHuman@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I have many issues with the game deference to the steam monopoly… But they don’t partake in this particular abuse: taking a cut from the dev for all in game purchases. They only take a (sizeable) cut for the initial game purchase.

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