Comment on Suddenly seeing more hexbear posts. Did we re-federate with them?

• Blamemeta@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Genocide denial.

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  • Egon@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Which genocide?

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    • JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I had some conversations here. They were saying that China isn’t doing anything to the Uyghurs in Xinjiang. That seems like genocide denial to me.

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      • Staines@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Why are you linking an actual propaganda thinktank as an example as of Uyghur Genocide?

        You could link any source, but you link one that is staffed by people who’s careers have been purely to lie about American’s enemies and push American interests?? I hope you’re a little sharper than that and you’re just linking that because you hope other people will swallow anything.

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      • Egon@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        While I think nay accusation of genocide should be taken seriously and investigated, I do not think we should accept these claims without basis, and we have to accept that despite several years of allegations, no proof has been provided. Both the US state department and the CIA have had to acknowledge that there is no genocide going on in Xinjiang. Here’s a carrd with mainly Western sources debunking the claims of genocide xinjiangahr.carrd.co

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  • Venus@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Denounce the US genocide against Martians right now or you’re a genocide denier.

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  • ReadFanon@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Hell yeah I’m a genocide denier.

    I deny white genocide without any remorse 😎

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  • brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    So you believe in White Genocide?

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• Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Being pro Russia, genocide denialism, authoritarianism, being hateful of ideas that don’t conform to their worldview, racism (just not towards the same people), the list goes on and on.

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  • PaX@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Hey, I’m a Hexbear user and I really think you have the wrong impression of what our site is. Idk if you’re open to reconsidering or if you’re just trying to get a few antagonistic words in but I’ll tell you my experience as a long time user:

    Being pro Russia

    Our site isn’t pro-russia. We just want the war to come to a swift end without any further bloodshed. Some people take offense to that because we don’t think the best way to do that is to send more guns, tanks, planes, dollars, etc into the warzone. That benefits no one except the arms manufacturers and the money lenders. Not regular people on either side.

    genocide denialism

    The only thing I can think of that you would be referring to is the “holodomor” or something similar that happened in the USSR. It’s not that we deny that many people did die in these horrible tragedies or that there wasn’t Soviet government involvement in some of them but that these very real events are being distorted for political reasons by people who want to paint the USSR in a certain, wholly bad, light. As communists (or anarchists), we try to be very open to criticism and new ways of thinking about or doing things but not when the intent is to do historical revisionism to make the people who liberated the concentration camps and ended the crimes of Nazism seem like Nazis under a different name.

    Authoritarianism

    Well, I guess this is true in a way. As revolutionists, we do seek to change the system by establishing a new authority with the capability to make this change. But have you ever noticed how the current system maintains and perpetuates itself? Sure, you can vote (and we don’t seek to abolish that!), but when that fails and working-class people take to the streets seeking change, why is it that people with guns and tear gas and riot shields try to stop them and maybe even imprison them? It’s not that leftists are uniquely “authoritarian” but that we want to use that authority for representing regular, working-class people and to bring about a better world where that authority isn’t necessary anymore. Our anarchist users probably have a somewhat different take on this but one of them will have to talk about it lol

    being hateful of ideas that don’t conform to their worldview

    Sure, there are a lot of ideas that we hate. But isn’t that everyone? I hope we could all agree on hating things like fascism, racism, sexism, transphobia, etc etc. Our users probably feel more strongly about that than most people lol but that’s just cuz a lot of us have been targets of those kinds of ideas. Other than stuff like that though… this site has been one of the most accepting places on the Internet in my experience. Sure, we argue a lot (sometimes too zealously lol), but just cuz we care a lot about getting things right. On our site, we don’t have downvotes to encourage users to actually challenge bad ideas and voice their opinion instead of just feeling satisfied having slightly influenced an algorithm.

    racism (just not towards the same people)

    This just hasn’t been my experience and I know most of our users would agree. Racism gets swiftly removed on Hexbear and lots of people replying challenging it. Do you have any examples? This has just been so contrary to my time on the site. Unless you mean jokes about white people but I hope I don’t have to explain why that’s not a problem lol

    Anyway, I just want our instances and our users to exist together in peace. I know we have very “different” ideas from what is considered the mainstream in the west and on most of the English-speaking internet but I know our presence on the “fediverse” can be a positive thing and that we can get along. I hope this helps you to understand our site a bit better.

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    • MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The whole “we want to end the war” argument just reeks. It stinks of russian propaganda. Russia started the war. They invaded Ukraine. Would you have the same viewpoint if the US was the invader? I’ve seen that comment several times and it kinda starts sounding like a red fascist dogwhistle

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      • spectre@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The war did not start in 2022, your analysis of what has been happening before the invasion needs to go back before that.

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      • Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        dude history has a context

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    • hakase@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Unless by racism you mean racism but I hope I don’t have to explain why racism isn’t a problem lol

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      • PaX@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Do you think “anti-white racism” is even remotely as bad as other forms of racism? Or even a problem at all? White people already have all the privileges bestowed upon them by a fundamentally white-supremacist society. I don’t think making fun of this concept on our tiny social media website is hurting anyone.

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      • PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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  • Venus@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    No one on hexbear is pro-russia, we take genocide far more seriously than the average liberal (when was the last time you saw a liberal who gives a shit about the US’s crimes against natives), we are by far the least racist instance on the entire fediverse.

    Your list is bullshit, shut up.

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  • somename@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    No one here is pro Russia lol. We just recognize that the war in Ukraine is an intractable meat grinder, and working for peace is more productive than continuing the conflict in an effort to further enrich War Contractors.

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• YeetPics@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Woah woah woah, calm down there chief.

  I have that same opinion having seen hexbear posts for the past 6 months. It’s not invalid because it makes you upset.

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