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FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

$850 is way more expensive than a PS5 though lol. Linux also means you can’t play the games that top the most played charts on the PS5 every single month of every single year.

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Psythik@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
If you’re willing to get a base model, sure. The PS5 Pro is a $700 console, and that’s not including the subscription fee for multiplayer (which doesn’t exist on PC unless you’re into MMOs).

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- FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  Also every Playstation (and Xbox) game eventually comes to PC, so unless you’re so impatient that you have to play the latest games right fucking now, there’s no reason to own a console.
  
  This isn’t true yet (the games thing). Playstation haven’t brought or even suggested that they’ll bring every game to PC. Microsoft are, sure, which is amazing - but Sony very much still want to protect their walled garden of consoles. Playstation, more specifically the 30% cut they get of all game sales, and their online subscription fees, are the only thing keeping Sony afloat. If sony were to go full PC like MS, Playstation and Sony would go down like the Titanic.
  
  As for the “there’s no reason to own a console”, eh I see the point and I agree to an extent but I also disagree. My Series X’s UI is just so much better than any PC UI, not to mention the features. Quick resume for one is an absolute game changer, and it’s not on PC. Everything that you could ever want to do while playing online is just so much easier to do on a console than on a PC. I say this as someone who plays more and more on PC these days, and wishes I could boot my PC into a Xbox OS type UI.
  
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sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Works on Linux:

Prince of Persia, the Lost Crown

Silent Hill 2 (Remake)

Marvel vs Capcom: Arcade Classics

Shin Megamei Tensei (V)engeance

Persona 3 Reload

HiFi Rush

Animal Well

Castlevania Dominus Collection

Like A Dragon: Infinite Wealth

Tekken 8

The Last of Us Part II (Remaster)

Balatro

Dave the Diver

Slay the Princess: Pristine Cut

Metaphor Re Fantazio

Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree (and base game)

Does not work on Linux:

Unicorn Overlord (Console Exclusive, No PC Port Allowed by Publisher Vanillaware)

Destiny 2 (Kernel Level Anti Cheat)

FF VII Rebirth (PS Exclusive)

Astro Bot (PS Exclusive)

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Damn, yeah, still consoles gotta hold on via exclusives, I guess?

And then there’s the mismanaged shitshow that is Destiny 2…

…who can’t figure out how to do AntiCheat without installing a rootkit on your PC, despite functional, working AntiCheats having worked on linux games for at least half a decade at this point, if not longer…

…nor can they figure out how to write a storyline that rises above 'everyone is always lore dumping instead of talking, and also they talk to you like a 10 year while doing so.

Last I heard, a whole bunch of hardcore D2 youtubers and streamers were basically all quitting out of frustration and feeling let down or betrayed by Bungie.

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- FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Highest rated != most played or most popular.
  
  COD MP.
  
  Warzone.
  
  Fortnite.
  
  GTA Online.
  
  Not on Linux.
  
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  - sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Most Call of Duty games work on linux, you’re gonna have to be more specific as to which particular one of like 25 you mean by ‘COD’.
    
    The ones that don’t, they don’t work because the devs are too lazy or incompetent to make an AntiCheat that isn’t a rootkit with full access to your entire PC.
    
    I used to play GTA V Online (and RDR2, and FiveM, and RedM…) on linux all the time, literally for years… untill they just decided to ban all linux players.
    
    IMO they owe me money for that, but oh well I guess.
    
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    Again, there are many AntiCheats that work on linux, and have worked on linux for years and years now.
    
    Easy Anti Cheat and Battleeye even offer linux support to game devs. There are some games with these ACs that actually do support linux.
    
    But many game devs/studios/publishers just don’t use this support… because then there wouldn’t be any reason to actually use Windows, and MSFT pays these studios a lot of money… or they just literally own them (Activision/Blizzard = MSFT).
    
    Kernel Anti Cheat that only works on Windows?
    
    Yep, that’s just a complicated way to enforce Windows exclusivity in PC games.
    
    Go look up how many hacks and trainers you can find for one of these games you mention.
    
    You may notice that they are all designed for, and only work on… Windows.
    
    The idea that all linux gamers are malicious hackers is a laughable, obviously false idea… but game company execs understand the power of rabid irrational fandoms.
    
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    You are right that you can’t run games with rootkit anticheats on linux though, so if those heavily monetized and manipulative games with toxic playerbases are your addiction of choice, yep, sorry, linux ain’t your hookup for those.
    
    Again, this is another game platform freedom advocacy issue, and also a personal information security advocacy issue, not a ‘something is wrong with linux’ issue.
    
    Game companies have gotten many working anticheat systems to work with linux. The most pooular third party anticheat systems also support linux.
    
    But the industry is clever at keeping people locked into their for profit, insecure OSs that spy on their entire system.
    
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    FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Most Call of Duty games work on linux, you’re gonna have to be more specific as to which particular one of like 25 you mean by ‘COD’.
    
    I was more specific - I said COD MP as in multiplayer, as in the current COD Multiplayer that people play, which all have anti-cheat that doesn’t work on Linux. Warzone, again, doesn’t work on Linux.
    
    The ones that don’t, they don’t work because the devs are too lazy or incompetent (or specifically told not to by their bosses) to make an AntiCheat that isn’t a rootkit with full access to your entire PC.
    
    Because without full access to your PC, anti-cheat is essentially useless and easily bypassed by cheaters.
    
    I used to play GTA V Online (and RDR2, and FiveM, and RedM…) on linux all the time, literally for years… untill they just decided to ban all linux players.
    
    Because of cheaters.
    
    Kernel Anti Cheat that only works on Windows?
    
    Yep, that’s just a complicated way to enforce Windows exclusivity in PC games.
    
    It’s also one of the only ways to try to stop cheaters.
    
    The idea that all linux gamers are malicious hackers is a laughable, obviously false idea
    
    That’s not an idea that anyone is saying though, other than you right now. The idea is that without that kernel level protection you can’t even hope to stop a high percentage of cheats.
    
    You are right that you can’t run games with rootkit anticheats on linux though, so if those heavily monetized and manipulative games with toxic playerbases are your addiction of choice, yep, sorry, linux ain’t your hookup for those.
    
    So like I said, the most popular, most played games on every platform (apart from linux) every year.
    
    Again, this is another game platform freedom advocacy issue, and also a personal information security advocacy issue, not a ‘something is wrong with linux’ issue.
    
    It is a “something is wrong with linux” issue if Linux doesn’t allow/provide for something that game developers - and game players - want, which is anti-cheat that does the absolute best it can to stop cheaters.
    
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