Comment on My Thoughts on the Fosstodon Drama | Kev Quirk

• Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  Yes, which is exactly why it’s particularly devastating when they receive animosity and hate in exchange.

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• rglullis@communick.news ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  it gives them personal satisfaction to help out with something that is meaningful to them.

  What about the cases where “what is meaningful to them” conflicts with “what is meaningful to the others”?

  I said on a sibling comment but it bears repeating: I am not talking about someone who enjoys a hobby and goes on to create/mod a community about it. I am thinking about the cases where someone finds themselves as part of a large community and realizes that the majority of the members keep pushing you to things you either don’t want to or disagree with.

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  • TORFdot0@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Some people are willing to go against their own personal wants and desires if the majority of the community agrees. They may do it because they believe in democratic principles and whatever it is may be not what they want but doesn’t cross the their “line-in-the-sand” of what they are willing to do in service of their community.

    And when it does finally cross that line, people will step down like Kevin has done. I may not agree with the democratically elected government of America right now but I am still an American. You don’t have to agree 100% with the community to still be a member

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  • JoeTheSane@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Then we are talking about two different things. The post that I responded to did not make that clear. You should be more careful about using generalizations.

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    • rglullis@communick.news ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’d say that they are the same thing, just in different contexts. But okay, if I wasn’t clear it’s on me to fix it.

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  • LandedGentry@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You sound like you’re referencing something specific but you’re speaking as if this is some broader issue

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    • rglullis@communick.news ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It is a broader issue, namely: there is no such thing as doing a “thankless” job for purely altrustic reasons. This is not an issue on a small scale, but once it reaches it some critical mass we should wonder what motivates those who keep a position of authority.

      (And before I get another barrage of people saying “I do it because I care about it/ I want to help / someone needs to do it”… yeah, sure, but if you are cultivating something because you happen to like the thing at hand , then you are doing for your own personal interest and it is not entirely altruistic. And that is totally fine.)

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      • LandedGentry@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I moderated a 2mill person sub on the shithole site until I left over the API fiasco. I was never paid, I was never interviewed, I received nothing. I banned maybe 10 people over 3 years. Only a few friends know I even did it and it’s because it organically came up during the api shit.

        I legitimately did it because I had been a member of the community for years and really felt passionate about keeping its standards and making sure it remained safe for the community. I am not amazing, I am not unusual. Most mods on some level do it because they want to see a community thrive. The terrible ones exist, there are even a lot of them. But as you can imagine, people don’t notice the quiet ones who just do their thing and tend to it the same way they tend to a garden.

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