Comment on What is Docker?

• GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You might notice that your Windows installation is like 30 gigabytes and there is a huge folder somewhere in the system path called WinSXS. Microsoft bends over backwards to provide you with basically all the versions of all the shared libs ever, resulting in a system that can run programs compiled from decades ago just fine.

  In Linux-land usually we just recompile all of the software from source. Sometimes it breaks because Glibc changed something. Or sometimes it breaks because (extremely rare) the kernel broke something. Linus considers breaking the userspace API one of the biggest no-nos in kernel development.

  Even so, depending on what you’re doing you can have a really old binary run on your Linux computer if the conditions are right. Windows just makes that surface area of “conditions being right” much larger.

  As for your phone, all the apps that get built and run for it must target some kind of specific API version (the amount of stuff you’re allowed to do is much more constrained). Android and iOS both basically provide compatibility for that stuff in a similar way that Windows does, but the story is much less chaotic than on Linux and Windows (and even macOS) where your phone app is not allowed to do that much, by comparison.

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  • pressanykeynow@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    In Linux-land usually we just recompile all of the software from source

    That’s just incorrect. Apart from 3 guys who have no better things to do no one in “Linux-land” does that.

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• SirQuack@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  In case of phones, there’s less of a myriad of operating systems and libraries.

  A typical Android app is (eventually) Java without some bundled dependencies and ties in to known system endpoints (for stuff like notifications and rendering graphics).

  For windows these installers are usually responsible for getting the dependencies. Which is why some installers are enormous (and most installers of that size are web installers, so it looks smaller).

  Docker is more aimed at developers and server deployment, you don’t usually use docker for desktop applications. This is the area where you want to skip inconsistencies between environments, especially if these are hard to debug.

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• kieron115@startrek.website ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Caveat: I am not a programmer, just an enthusiast. Windows programs typically package all of the dependency libraries up with each individual program in the form of DLLs (dynamic link library). If two programs both require the same dependency they just both have a local copy in their directory.

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