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• dogs0n@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Yeah, they kinda screwed up Element with combining mobile and desktop features into one app. The first time I tried creating a call on desktop, it was suddenly apparent how confusing they had made it, because you can do it in multiple ways (normal calls & conference calls).

  There are other UIs that look very nice, but sadly don’t support voice chat. Hopefully these other clients can catch up, but it’ll likely take a while.

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  • XM34@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    So, I briefly tried out Matrix some four years ago and left because it was utter trash and from waht I gather from your comment it is still pretty much trash now. But despite there not being ansingle usable cluent, people still try to convince everyone that Matrix, by some obscrure metric, is superior to all other chat programs.

    Sorry to say, but a chat protocol on its own is a tech demo at best and as long as there isn’t a single feature complete and usable client, it’s an alternative for no one except hardcore tech enthusiasts.

    When I last used Matrix/Elements I had to deal with “lost keys” issues multiple times in just two months. This issue is a dealbreaker if it happens just once in a year and apparently, it’s still a semi regular problem for some of my friends.

    Just accept it, Matrix will never be a replacement for Discord, WhatsApp, Telegram or even just Microsoft Teams.

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    • poke@sh.itjust.works ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Never is a strong word. Element has made a lot of progress and I can see the potential in it to compete with some of these platforms.

      But no, it’s not there yet.

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      • dogs0n@sh.itjust.works ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I agree, I don’t think it’s trash. From my experience, chatting is very good, voice/video are just the next thing they are tackling.

        Better UX will probably come after important features are done.

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    • dogs0n@sh.itjust.works ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I didn’t mean to say that it’s (still) trash, I think it’s useable, but there are still a lot of improvements to come.

      Element as a client seems to want to do everything, which is probably great for a lot of people, but it (in my experience) has led to a poor user experience (which with more time, will likely improve, they seem to have a lot of backing).

      With Element completing voice/video implementation, I imagine it’ll be easier for other clients to reference their work when implementing their own support.

      Once the other clients get voice support, I will definitely be trying them out again, I’m sure they will make a much simpler experience that works out the box.

      The lost keys problem has luckily never happened to me, it usually boils down the user error I believe, but yeah, if it is a user error that happens often, they should figure out some way to fix that (probably a hard problem, which is sort of fixed (i believe) if you use the client on multiple devices, so if you get logged out of your account you can easily authorize your access from another logged in device, eg desktop/mobile).

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