Comment on Philosophy moment

• CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I would disagree, I read that this is mostly them being tired with the questions on the policy. While I agree that some of the questions are rediculous, and sympethize with the need to keep students off their phones or other devices, an all out ban removes the ability to instruct students on how to use it, as well as the regulation is really shottily crafted as we can see from one of the questions helpfully listing it in its full text.

  “Any non-HCPSS device that may be used to send or receive data via voice, video or text. This includes, but is not limited to, mobile phones, e-readers, tablets, personal computers, wearable technology, video recorders or other devices equipped with microphones, speakers and/or cameras” Let me start out by saying this is utter horse shit as a regulation, while it starts out fine, this only applies to devices we do not own, so loaned out computers are fine, the rest of this utterly falls appart.

  First we have the ban classification, any device that may be used to send or receive data via voice, video, or text. This I can work with, so personal laptops are catagoircaly banned no questions asked, carrier pigeons are not as they are not devices, E-Readers without internet capability are fine as they cannot send or receve, video recorders should be fine, agian assuming they are not internet or bluetooth capable (think old school film camera) because agian they cannot send or receve the data they are getting, Air fryer is good, a phone in a bunch of little parts is fine because its not working, ECT ECT.

  However what we just have next in the “Includes but is not limited to” Section includes some items that are perfectly fine by the regulation written above, E-Readers, some are uable to send or reseve data unless plugged into a computer, and this say may be, and while that clause is super vauge, there is no reason to think that it would be linked to the school chrome book, “Video recorders” Also not always aplicable nor “other devices equiped with microphones, speakers and or cameras” This would include some old tape recorders or the point and shoot single use cameras, and while a speaker can be technicaly called “sending data via voice” if it has the range to be able to faithfully recreate voice, playing a sound is not what is normaly understood as “sending data” and without creating a deffintion section I am hesitent to grant them this as playing sound is outside of the normaly agreed apon usage of the term. This inlcudes section, does give me an idea of what they wanted to ban, however it is not compatable with what there statment is. I will grant that this probably has force, as it specificaly mentions that these devices are included in the ban, but they give me no real idea of what the previous secion is meaning, and with no deffintion section I really cannot be sure beyond normal usage of words.

  Now to the fun part, Under this, most TI-Graphing calculators bought by the student (common practus in the US) would be banned as it is possible to get them to send and receve data via text, and while I have never done it myself I have heard it is not hard. While this may require first plugging it into a computer, as we see with the e-book example that is something they think the students are able and willing to do on the school computer, so a TI-calculator would be banned under this regulation unless provided by the school

  Carrier pigeon, not banned under this, however it is probably banned under some please dont bring pets to school provision. That being said, if it is an animal that cannot without just cause be removed, a service dog ect, then they would be in a grey zone on if they can send messages as they are not a device. That being said they could be removed for exceeding the bounds of the animal and causing a disruption. I am not a lawer, I do not deal with ADA issues regularly, I just have a job that deals alot with regulations.

  Air Frier,probably fine. Personal Lap top dispite what the admin has repetedly said is not allowed, it is even mentioned in the policy.

  the admin says teachers will not be hunting, however there is no way to enforce this.

  TLDR the admin is probably supportive of the intent behind the policy, however the students trolling because they do not like it, and the terrible nature of the policy would leave it hard to defend and anyone tired at the end of the day

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  • techognito@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I probably should have worded myself better.

    I agree that “Admin” agrees with the intent behind the policy. What I meant is that they don’t seem to agree 100% with the wording of the policy, especially the parts that seem to be problematic for using devices for educational purposes.

    Carrier pigeon, not banned under this, however it is probably banned under some please dont bring pets to school provision.

    "Admin"s wording for this was weird (at least from the view of this non-American), “No animals allowed”, like happens when wild animals walk around? Where I live, nothing much would happen, they’ld exist, they would get commented on depending on what animal it is, and the day would continue. It almost sounds like someone would get punished if a random animal walks within school perimeter.

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