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• ChairmanMeow@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  That’s not really self-diagnosis is it? Self-diagnosis would be you already claiming there was a tumour before doctors found something.

  Knowing something off is not diagnosing yourself.

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  • P00ptart@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s certainly in the same vein, but you’re right, not exactly the same.

    Though as far as self diagnosis with autism is concerned, I don’t see that as a bad thing. Even if they aren’t on the spectrum, realizing they have some shared personality traits will cause more “normies” to have a sympathetic view towards autism, causing it to have less stigma. People hear that certain traits are related to autism and recognize those same traits in themselves, and then they can relate better. If only more people could do this with race, religion and gender, people would have more compassion for others as a whole.

    But Elon? Fuck that guy.

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    • GladiusB@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I don’t agree this is self diagnosis unless you set up an MRI and analyzed the data yourself. Having self awareness to think that something wasn’t right? Yea. That’s what it sounds like.

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      • andxz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Setting up an MRI and interpreting the images yourself is obviously impossible, but I did work in a related field so it wasn’t just guesswork either. Do you think any of the doctors I met gave a shit about my thoughts on the matter regardless?

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  • andxz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I knew it wasn’t just random headaches but something else, potentially a lot worse. I was right in that instance, at the very least. You’re right that I couldn’t tell them exactly what it was, but since it was quite localised I had my suspicions.

    Trying to tell a doctor that you suspect something isn’t exactly easy unless they actually happen to listen, which they didn’t, for far too long.

    When they finally did the surgery it was a lot worse than it could’ve been. I was lucky enough that it was a pre-cancerous tumor though. A few months more and it would probably have been too late.

    I’ll admit that I worked in a related field at the time though, so I wasn’t entirely relying on guesswork. Not that that meant anything to a single one of the doctors I met before the last one that actually gave me the MRI scan I had begged for for months. I was in surgery the next week.

    So you tell me, was the right course of action to just listen to what the doctors said, or not?

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    • ChairmanMeow@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      You did the right thing. I’m not disputing that.

      I’m saying it’s a very different thing from people who self-diagnose psychological issues or other diseases, without confirming with a doctor.

      You didn’t go “I have a brain tumour, where’s the surgeon”, you persisted in getting a proper diagnosis from a doctor who finally did the right tests.

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      • andxz@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I’ll concede that there’s a difference between physical and psychological diagnoses, but I’ll stand by the main point I was trying to convey, which in this case is that simply blindly following whatever a doctor says can go very wrong.

        At the very least there’s always a good reason to get a second opinion if there’s even a little bit of doubt. Obviously there’s also the difference between a lifelong psychological issue and an acute medical emergency.

        I simply felt that OP was giving really bad advice and I’m fairly sure he’s got no medical training whatsoever, while I’ve been a nurse for over a decade. Maybe I’m wrong and he’s a doctor, but I highly doubt it.

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• Tungsten5@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  That is not self-diagnosis. Just google the term if you don’t know the meaning

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