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neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

The last I looked was that the Pixel was the only phone that allowed you to load a custom rom and relock the bootloader. Other phones kept the bootloader unlocked once it was modded.

So, graphene could be put on those phones if the devs wanted to do it, but it would be less secure since the bootloader would remain unlocked.

Also, supporting a small line a phones is probably infinitely easier than a range, of devices, but it would be nice to have another option. Especially now that the Fairphone pice is reasonable.

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baduhai@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

The last I looked was that the Pixel was the only phone that allowed you to load a custom rom and relock the bootloader. Other phones kept the bootloader unlocked once it was modded.

That is not the case. SHIFTmq, Motorola and Fairphone allow the bootloader to be relocked with a custom rom. There are many requirements the Fairphone lacks for GrapheneOS, but relocking the bootloader is not one of them.

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- neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Thanks! I guess what I read before was either old or just wrong.
  
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Prism@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
The Fairphone can be locked after flashing a custom rom. /e/-OS is officially supported. You can even buy it from them with /e/ preinstalled. iode-OS also works. I don’t know about Graphene OS, but tbh, I don’t see the benefit of Graphene OS for the average user. /e/ has built in privacy features, is google-free and runs MicroG as alternative to Google Play Services. Most apps run fine. You can even use your apps that you purchased from the PlayStore.

I’ve been using Fairphone 5 with /e/-OS for over a year and love it.

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- Luffy879@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  
  /e/ has built in privacy features
  
  /e/ uses a for profit 3rd party for unencrypted backups. That alone should be a big red flag.
  
  is google-free and runs MicroG
  
  So it runs google. MicroG just limits what data is sent to google.
  
  You can even use your apps that you purchased from the PlayStore.
  
  You can do the same with aurora store. That’s available on just about every phone.
  
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  - WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    
    You can do the same with aurora store. That’s available on just about every phone.
    
    not if the app attempts to verify its license through the play store. you need microg for that, or patch it
    
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  - joel_feila@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Well even graphene os still runs a version of Android. So there is still some goggle code in that. But ripping oit google play, amd various goggle services means goggle doesn’t track you with those. Yeah if you still ise gmail and log into toutube every day they will.
    
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    Luffy879@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    
    there is still some goggle code in that.
    
    But that code is open source, and it has been verified that it dosent track you.
    
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  - Prism@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    It a perfectly usable Android for the average user. Everything works out of the boy. If it is not for you, fine. Buy a Pixel.
    
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    Luffy879@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    
    for the average user.
    
    So we are talking about an average user, who
    
    fully understands the appeal of a degoogled Phone
    
    Willingly spends extra money for a fairphone
    
    is able to migrate away from google services to /e/'s services
    
    Is willing and able to troubleshoot any problems that MicroG has
    
    is willing to fix not working banking apps
    
    Tell me, is this average user in the room with us right now?
    
    Everything works out of the boy.
    
    So does (and does not) with Calix or Graphene
    
    Buy a Pixel.
    
    I think you don’t get what I’m talking about.
    
    -It takes a base level of understanding why you would buy a Fairphone (or any degoogled phone)
    
    it takes a base level of understanding phones to be able to use a degoogled one
    
    If you already have that knowledge, you might as well just take an extra 5 minutes and use the web installer for calyx since it is literally the same AND has less vendor lockin than /e/
    
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- vga@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  e-OS is said to have the worst security of pretty much all Android distributions.
  
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  - Prism@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    They are usually a month behind
    
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