by women for women lol just change it for other noun by white people for white people You see the problem here?
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tfm@europe.pub 4 weeks ago“Are there any Lemmy/Mbin instances by women for women?”
Where is the division?
pr0sp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
ameancow@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Okay now lets change it again.
“Are there any Lemmy communities FOR rape survivors and by rape survivors?”
And someone says “Well why do you want to create division? Shouldn’t rapists also have a chance to share their side?”
I’m not saying this is a realistic “turn the tables” but neither is yours. I will explain why.
Right now, despite whatever stupid fucking propaganda a select few assholes are hung up on, there are no systemic attacks happening on white people just for being white. At least none of any value or meaning. No, fringe groups don’t count because they don’t have power and never will have power in this system. However there ARE in fact many white-nationalist groups that ARE gaining power and voice, and attempting to return to an old hegemonic ideal of race. This isn’t a “that’s not fair!” issue, this is an issue about our very future as a diverse species sharing a world together.
I don’t think there should be ANY exclusionary spaces, but I do think there should be well-moderated spaces for people of similar ideas or demographics to share thoughts without being attacked for their identity. There should be spaces where people know they will be ejected for trying to sabotage the conversations.
Division and segregation hurts all of us, and if we want to fight it, we have to fight the fuckers who drive people to want to escape, we have to fight the trolls and monsters and bullies and nazis who make people feel afraid. Those are the ones trying to divide us, and those are the ones we shouldn’t be giving voice to.
sunflowercowboy@feddit.org 4 weeks ago
I completely agree with you.
White people are just frustrated equality means feeling burdens, pains, and other things equally. By all carrying a little, you can carry a whole lot. However, I’ve learned it comes from a place of comfort. They think the world around them is sound, that rules exist and structure permeates. They are but babies to reality. Even the christians among them do not understand the misery and suffering the bible speaks of.
Those that propagate these lies, they witness not injustices but a system they can exploit. They are the demons that keep us awake at night and fearing our safety.
ameancow@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Our species has a lot more vulnerabilities in our minds and hearts than we really want to admit to even ourselves… but there are wicked people who do know about them, and they will try everything to pry those vulnerabilities open and make us feel things so our brains latch onto stories to explain those feelings.
We have to be constantly wary of anyone who says things that make us feel powerful emotions, no matter who or where, this our future battleground. The next world-war will be waged internally.
(And with missiles too of course.)
pr0sp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
I agree up to a certain point. You say moderation I say censorship.
tfm@europe.pub 4 weeks ago
Sounds racist. You see the problem?
pr0sp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
So you think I’m white? Lol…
frog_brawler@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Where’s the division? It starts and ends with the “…for women” part.
By women, sure that’s not divisive at all but if something is being set up specifically for one gender it’s inherently divisive.
Don’t get me wrong, I understand why women would want it, but at the same time describing it as non-divisive doesn’t work.
tfm@europe.pub 4 weeks ago
Ah give me a break. Can’t there be something that is designed specifically for women without you feeling excluded? Nobody says that you aren’t allowed to participate.
frog_brawler@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Why are you making it personal about me? I don’t give a damn what you do. Did you see the part of my last comment where I said that I can understand why women would want it?
You asked a question, I provided an answer. Pull your head out.