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9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• resipsaloquitur@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Nonono, see, they will have punitive contracts with employees that will nail them to the wall if they leak source code.

  They like rules as long as they’re the one writing them.

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• primemagnus@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  “I don’t think so. Whatever is yours is ours, whatever is ours stays ours. Thank you for understanding.”

  —Microsoft et al.

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• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That’s what would happen if copyright doesn’t exist. If a company releases something, it’s immediately public domain, because no law protects it.

  GPL

  The GPL is very much not the public domain.

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  • bilb@lem.monster ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Itsan interesting point that without any IP law, GPL would be invalid and corporations could use and modify things like Lemmy without complying with the license.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Exactly. They wouldn’t be obligated to contribute back at all, so someone like Meta could just rebrand Lemmy into something else and throw ads everywhere.

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      • seeigel@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They already could. Lemmy’s users are not the ones who run the software. It’s like Google’s usage of Linux. They can keep their changes to themselves.

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    • uis@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But then corporations could not stop anyone from modifying their modifications to things like Lemmy.

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      • bilb@lem.monster ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Well, they wouldn’t need to release those changes publicly.

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  • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The GPL is basically trying to make a world without copyright. The GPL basically only has teeth in a world where copyright exists. If copyright didn’t exist then everything would be in the public domain and the GPL would be toothless, but that’s fine because it would no longer be unnecessary.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No, the GPL very much requires copyright to work. The whole point is copyleft, which obligates changes to the code remain under the same license and be available to everyone.

      Without copyright, companies just wouldn’t share their changes at all. The whole TIVO-ization clause in the GPL v3 would be irrelevant since TIVO can very much take without giving back. Copyright is very much essential to the whole concept of the GPL working.

      Just think, why would anyone want to use Linux if Microsoft or Apple could just bake Linux into their offering?

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      • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        No, the GPL very much requires copyright to work

        That’s what I said.

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• sparky@lemmy.federate.cc ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So basically the bluesky source code is now public domain?

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