Comment on Chinese chip giants say they don't care about U.S. tariffs — many don't sell to the U.S. anyway due to existing sanctions

• kureta@lemmy.ml ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Why is China an enemy of the USA?

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  • ghostface@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Because China has been engaged in a civil among itself with a US or western friendly faction surviving on Taiwan.

    This is the reason why the other world leaders dont recognize Taiwan.

    There’s also Tibet… China has secret police stations across the globe spying and harassing citizens of nations who have expatriated…

    The Philippines… Japan… Opium wars…

    Not really a enemy but a frienemy.

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    • kureta@lemmy.ml ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      China has secret police stations across the globe spying and harassing citizens

      My dude. USA…

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• humanspiral@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Enemy is entirely US’s choice. China did not deny PPE to US during covid, even if demand was larger than supply rates. Now that covid is over, PPE is imported from China again. National security can mean subsidies to allow factories to be ready to shift/ramp production, not because other nations have to be enemies, but because demand could skyrocket, and government could care about US lives. Manufacturing an enemy risks those lives.

  US weapon systems rely on Chinese electronics to this day. Destroying US clean energy and EV sector will destroy domestic supply chain expansion, and retain Chinese dominance over US weapon systems, and future economy. A pure propaganda misinformation system for warmongering evil is no basis for progress or sustainability, or recognizing weaknesses that could have time to fix.

  But war on China move I referred to was banning sales of US patent protected fab equipment, and advanced chips to China. That is the harm to western innovation that dooms it from loss of access to world’s largest electronic device market. Though in the long term, humanity will be benefitted from the competition from China. Just US stock market/companies will suffer from the policy.

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  • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Enemy is entirely US’s choice

    China threatening taiwan is not the usa’s choice.

    China’s consistent copyright theft is not the USA’s choice.

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    • humanspiral@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      China’s desire for unification is not directly a threat. US sponsored divisiveness in Taiwan is meant to control Taiwanese into unreasonable acts. Current President is US puppet, but parliamentary majority is against suicide. Provoking the destruction of Taiwan (which US promises to do if it/Taiwan were to lose against China), comes from Taiwanese declaration of some kind.

      China’s consistent copyright theft is not the USA’s choice.

      These are 20 year old accusations. China today is innovating on its own.

      Do not spout lies that portray china as innocent please.

      You could have criticisms of China, and any other state. if the purpose of any criticism is to manufacture an enemy, then it is automatically disingenous, compared to a request for them to do better, and then instead of repeating 20 or 40 year old criticism, having a willingness to notice if the problem behaviour has ceased.

      You’re suggesting that innocent vs guilty of your accusations deserves an enemy status. Is US guilty of worse? If so, you should help China overthrow US government. Most usually, hate comes before throwing any and all shit you can imagine against your hate target.

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      • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        China’s desire for unification is not directly a threat.

        With important manufacturing that would inevitably get destroyed in a war, it’s a direct threat.

        These are 20 year old accusations. China today is innovating on its own.

        They’re a whole hell of a lot younger than 20 years old. It’s recent issue.

        having a willingness to notice if the problem behaviour has ceased.

        Also this, you think it’s just fine to not pay restitution? It’s also not ceased. Same thing, steal the design produce it cheaper with slave labor or borderline slave labor is ongoing.

        You’re suggesting that innocent vs guilty of your accusations deserves an enemy status.

        It’s enough to establish china has a hostile foreign state, yes.

        Is US guilty of worse?

        Irrelevant. This is about if they did things to establish themselves as a hostile foreign power. You’re pretending they did no aggression, that’s what I’m referring to.

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    • dubyakay@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “Copyright” theft. Hahaha.

      “Please agree to obey our rules controlled by our corpos.”

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      • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s an actively hostile act, regardless of what your beliefs are on the copyright system.

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