Comment on A patient gamer youtuber explaining why she only plays old games
dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 week agoThe youtuber is claiming modern games have “masculinized” female characters likely in response to attempts to not sexualize some female characters in contemporary games. Representing this as “erasure of feminity” sounds like a conservative defense of sexism.
Her right-wing views also explains why Asmongold, another streamer, is sending viewers her way. If you’re not familiar, Asmongold has right-wing views himself, and sexist views in particular, for example he was upset that a woman won a fan vote for an esports award, claiming it was a “diversity pick” and she only won because she was a woman. He claims she wasn’t a top streamer despite the fact that she was a top streamer with 6.5 million fans, etc.
The “hate” is typical conservative bigotry, and while nublung’s comment points out the youtuber’s sexism, likely what they meant by “hateful garbage” was the overall ideology which aims at the usual targets:
- women,
- racial minorities,
- political enemies (liberals and leftists),
- sexual & gender minorities (LGBT+),
- heathens (i.e. non-Christians, Muslims, etc.),
- immigrants (example),
- poor people (e.g. “welfare queens”, food stamp recipients, etc.), and
- disabled folks (example)
weker01@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
At the time of writing my comment I did not know about that other YouTuber and am glad I did not encounter them since.
That said I still think that video was not “hateful garbage”. While I do not agree with everything she said, I do think she makes some valid points and in other parts she represents her subjective tastes in video games.
Guilt by association is not itself a fallacy in all cases but here I think it unfair to not engage with the actual topic at all. This just furthers division instead of finding common ground.
dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 week ago
Yes, I do think there is a tendency to condemn people from their associations, and that can lead to unfair characterizations - though I don’t think this is one of those cases.
Actually watching some of the video, her comments align pretty directly with conservative talking points and builds upon existing conservative “arguments” and outrage about the influence of feminism on video games.
I think nublung is basically suggesting we shouldn’t be sharing bigoted or hateful perspectives, which I agree with.
weker01@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
Align with or are those talking points? If so what concretely is the problem here?
This is still not engaging with the content itself.
How does your suggestion not lead to an echo chamber? Ideas and arguments should be considered before dismissal.
Btw I find it really strange that you talk for someone else instead of making your own statements. How do you know what that user suggests?