People have said the same thing about music forever. Chess, which is just 16 pieces on an 8x8 board, famously has more possible game sequences than their are atoms in the universe. And modern video games have infinitely more variables than just 16 pieces constrained to 64 tiles.
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Valmond@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I wonder if we’ll one day just recycle game ideas so much there will be enough games for a whole lifetime and there are no new good ideas left.
Bleys@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Valmond@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Well IMO you prove my point with chess, no new “Chess II” has detroned the game, it’s one game and for many people it’s enough.
Bleys@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Chess is thousands of years old, but many popular variants like Fischer random or blitz are recent developments. Even auto chess is technically inspired by chess and now has millions of active players.
Despite borrowing principles from the original chess (which itself has changed quite a bit since inception) each of these games is substantially different from one another. You can call them recycled ideas, but I would just call it innovation.
slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Valmond@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Sure, there is that explosive chess and 960 chess and so on, but the game itself still stands. Time controls is not that recent either IIRC it was added when after many hours of thinking, the opponent broke the rule of not distracting the adversary and daringly asked where he was and got the response : “I thought it was your turn!”
applemao@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
But music is stagnated now because everything has been done, ai makes most pop music, and a new “song” is released every minute. We have far surpassed there ever being originality again.
Hopefully people will still want live performance by a human because that is all that’s left for the arts. Corpos will destroy it with ai slop that normal people won’t be able to differentiate from human creation.
Takumidesh@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Music has absolutely not stagnated and the only people who say that are people who have a passing interest (or none at all) and no desire to seek out anything beyond a Spotify playlist of tiktok trends.
And just because [insert your favorite genre] isn’t topping charts right now, doesn’t mean that a) it’s gone away, and b) that the music that is popular is bad. And also, just because the some music that gets popular is less dynamic or complex than others doesn’t mean it has nothing to say or has no value.
Honestly, the ‘modern music bad’ take is so braindead and it makes me so sad thinking about the people who refuse to allow new music in their life just so they can hold up holier than thou beliefs about the music they grew up with.
applemao@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
It doesn’t really have anything to do with old music being better, it’s not, I’m just saying with a new song released every minute and billions of people on earth, there is nothing new. Everything sounds like something else, it’s inevitable.
Valmond@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
There is a lot of shit mysic today, but there was a lot of shit music in the nineties too!
Go get that nugget!
kamenlady@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
It all pretty much also depends on the way technology progresses in real time. Better specs will always open up new possibilities, new ideas.
Maybe it would end up like this one day, but only if progress in technology has come to a halt.
Valmond@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
So VR and AI? Maybe you’re right.
bruhduh@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
We already at that point, game ideas just get mixed
RandomVideos@programming.dev 4 weeks ago
Is there even a specific type of game that has every good idea that would fit in already made into a game?
Valmond@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
That is probably a terrible idea, like a painting using “all colors”.
Idreamofcheesy@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
We’ve had books since ancient Greece and people are still writing new stories.
Plot points, mechanics, and character tropes will get recycled and mixed around, but there’s always going to be something “new.”
Valmond@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Yes, especially as society changes, books will be written to match that. There are so many good books though :-)