Comment on Image uploads are now disabled on lemm.ee due to malicious users

• GarbageShoot@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Thankfully I haven’t seen the takes accusing HB of the recent attacks, though being accused of the attacks on .world was a little annoying. I appreciate the solidarity.

  I genuinely have no idea where this recent attack is coming from. The most fried part of my brain says “One of the big companies trying to absorb the fediverse is doing this to undermine their competition,” but I have zero evidence, it’s just the only motive I can even think of beyond it being a rogue crank.

  It’s totally conceivable that HB people would spam an instance they don’t like – though this would be against the wishes of the mods and admins – but our site culture is completely antithetical to spamming CSAM and things like that, so I don’t think even a rogue group of users would do it “on our behalf”.

  Oh, I just realized it could be one of those fash instances like exploding heads. If any were defeded relatively recently, that would make sense.

  Instead people are jumping to “OhH it’s ThE HexBeArS” when they have not been able to freely browse you guys’ discussions or even talk with you, they’re just shown the worst take from a minority (although tbf you guys do the same on c/cth, so it’s kinda funny seeing both sides with one not realising the other is also just a human too, just with differing culture and political stance)

  I don’t think I have much to contribute to the “both sides” thing that is useful, but I’m going to talk anyway because I’m thinking about it now.

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  I think if you asked a hexbear user to seriously answer how representative those screenshots are of lemm.ee, they’d probably say that lemm.ee is much more ideologically disjointed on a handful of issues, especially regarding history and geopolitics, and the screenshots are only representative of some of the more annoying tendencies among the neoliberals and poorly-educated “anarchists” (like that dude who decried “tankies” and used Sankara as a counterexample, when we all like Sankara). I also think they would be correct in saying this. I don’t know what the anti-HB people who don’t comment on our instance think, I hardly ever see it, but I can at least tell you that we know much more about neoliberal ideology than they do ML, because we almost all started out as de facto neoliberals and nearly none of them have even a basic understanding of ML theory (which is not really their fault, to be clear).

  Anyone on any instance federated with hexbear is welcome to post questions to c/askchapo. If they are relatively polite and not presumptuous, we’ll be happy to answer. If people are still mean, report it. You can let me know and I will personally nag the mods to address the matter properly. Just recently we had a thread from a .ml user who wanted us to state our opinion on Trump for the record for the hundredth time, so about a hundred users chimed in that they all hate his guts (I also made a comment to that effect). We’re happy to discuss things openly and it would be good for us to improve community relations to avoid things like one group accusing the other of doing something as heinous as what the OP describes.

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  • tsonfeir@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    trump

    To be fair, some of the rhetoric you all use makes your political compass difficult to navigate.

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    • GarbageShoot@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      As I said, the question is welcome no matter how tedious I might personally find it, just like any question asked in good faith.

      Complete aside: polcomp is a bad way of attempting to understand politics. It has no way of understanding Marxism.

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      • PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [bot] ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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      • tsonfeir@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        That video could have easily been 5 minutes. Phweew.

        Say something bad about communism.

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    • Awoo@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      political compass

      Anyone that uses this to navigate politics is themselves politically illiterate.

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      • tsonfeir@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Ahhh yes, someone who cannot read between the lines to understand the true meaning. Thank you for this wonderful example.

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    • SoloboiNanook@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Its really not complicated.

      Just communist/anarchist/far more left than normal western discourse with a large amount of cynicism.

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  • HelloHotel@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    CSAM sourcing?

    Where do these people get that much CSAM. somebody once said that to the best of their understanding, it was new CSAM images each time, meaning not many repeats. My collection of reddit memes costs me ~15-30GB, all of sbubby costs ~5GB. where is it pooled from?

    The most fried part of my brain says “One of the big companies trying to absorb the fediverse is doing this to undermine their competition,” but I have zero evidence

    Most companies that build CSAM detectors, by nature of the work they have a lot of it. likely thousands of photos and videos. There may have been a leak from a CSAM vault wether it was intentional or not.

    it’s just the only motive I can even think of beyond it being a rogue crank.

    Its not hard to build a bot that scrapes a webpage of its images, they can easly aggrogate that much content over decades.

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• usa_suxxx@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yeah, it’s kind of weird. Doesn’t whatever gets posted eventually get sent over to the other federated servers? Like every server saves a copy? Like the dumbest attack on another server would be this.

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