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surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 weeks agoThey support the alt-right by being overly idealistic and failing to partner with liberals and more moderate leftists to make progress.
Divide and be conquered.
Look what you made me do!
I wouldn’t have considered genocide, if you were so idealistic!!
If you had only partnered up with the people who only car about money, we could have returned to the status quo.
Mate, the goal is to be idealistic. No one is perfect, but we want to strive for what’s the best and hope we reach there some day.
Yes, but not at the cost of letting fascists win. Harm reduction is real.
Sure, harm reduction is good. That’s what’s been happening in the past century.
But you give the liberals an inch and they’ll take a mile. They’re only “liberals” as long as they’re making money of others, as soon as something goes wrong they’re first in line asking for government handouts. That’s why the liberals will always prefer fascist over left wing idealists, because they’re opportunists more than anything else. They’ll backstab you and vote in fascists if they think they can make more money with them. That’s exactly what’s happening in the US.
We need new politics where hating on the LGBTQ+, immigrants, women, and putting money over the lives of few isn’t considered a political leaning.
Yep. Which means we need to run for government positions in a way we can win
queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Partnering with liberals is idealistic. They always stab you in the back at the first opportunity.
davel@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
I disagree. Socialists often tactically partner with liberals on shared goals, despite the risks. Knowing that, when forced to choose, liberals have historically sided with fascists, because fascists will never upend capitalism.
queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
It makes tactical sense to partner with liberals in some contexts, like a national liberation struggle, and to put aside lesser contradictions to focus on the principal contradiction. It doesn’t make sense to partner with liberals while under capitalism, especially not within the imperial core. The liberals in congress are happy to stand aside because they don’t have a shared goal in stopping fascism.
davel@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
What, a Zionist genocidaire giving a performative twenty five hour faux filibuster is not stopping fascism?