Comment on Think about it
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 week agoYou were making a case that Stalin wasn’t responsible for the holodomor, but you ignored the fact that even without that, he’s still directly responsible for at least 2 million deaths.
Comment on Think about it
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 week agoYou were making a case that Stalin wasn’t responsible for the holodomor, but you ignored the fact that even without that, he’s still directly responsible for at least 2 million deaths.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world 1 week ago
No, I wasn’t. Also, frankly he wasn’t “responsible” for Holodomor and it’s clear you still don’t know what Lysenkoism is.
He was responsible for directing the hunger politically, not for seeking to, or being the cause of the famine.
I’m sure you’re understanding pf history isn’t deft enough to understand what I’ve said, so I’ll simplify it for you:
If one person turns a tap on and another directs the water, who is responsible for the fact the tap is on?
I’m saying Lysenkoism (which has little to do with socialist and communist doctrine or schools of thought) is the man who turned the tap on. Stalin, being an authoritarian monster - chose to direct the water to what suited him politically. But the famine at that point was already happening.
As I said, probably too nuanced a point for you to grasp. But maybe you’ll surprise me.
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 week ago
Okay, but even if you remove the ~6 million deaths from the holodomor, he still remains responsible for the ~800k executions and ~1.5 M gulag deaths. I’m not sure what’s so difficult to understand about that.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world 1 week ago
You seem to think I denied those numbers rather than being the person who pasted them to you.
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 week ago
No, but you keep talking past them.