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DarkCloud@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• MartianSands@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Except these AI systems aren’t search engines, and people treating them like they are is really dangerous

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The basic graphing technology used by AI is the same pioneered by Alta Vista and optimized by Google years later. We’ve added a layer of abstraction through user I/O, such that you get a formalized text response encapsulating results rather than a series of links containing related search terms. But the methodology used to harvest, hash, and sort results is still all rooted in graph theory.

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    • MartianSands@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      That simply isn’t true. There’s nothing in common between an LLM and a search engine, except insofar as the people developing the LLM had access to search engines, and may have used them during their data gathering efforts for training data

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      • DarkCloud@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        “data gathering” and “training data” is just what they have you calling it.

        It’s not data gathering, it’s stealing. It’s not training data, it’s our original work.

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  • DarkCloud@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    They are. They record the data, stealing it. They search it, and reprint it (in whole or in part) upon request.

    They search the data-space or what they’re trained on (our content, the content of human beings), and reproduce statistically defined elements of it.

    They’re search engines that have stolen what they’re trained on, and reproduce it as “results”.

    Searching and reproducing content they’ve already recorded, is absolutely part of what they are.

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