Tell that to people running a 1080Ti or 1660. They can’t have dlss but fsr works great for all.
I don’t need a side by side to know the difference. DLSS is better in performance hands down. To get the same performance with FSR I have to sacrifice other settings if I can get there at all.
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BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’m not against open formats that aren’t hardware dependent. I’m just disagreeing that a difference can’t be seen other than side by side.
the_q@lemmy.world 10 months ago
The problem is its artificial performance. Frame generation that makes your fps counter have a bigger number isn’t the same thing as your GPU being able to sustain that bigger number through actual performance.
eager_eagle@lemmy.world 10 months ago
yeah, some people might tell, I don’t think it’s worth the trade-off of excluding a large part of the market.
NVIDIA doesn’t even respect their own user base. I have a 3080 and can’t use DLSS 3.
AngryMob@lemmy.one 10 months ago
Nobody wants exclusion of any technology, thats the entire point. Especially when its been shown repeatedly that once you implement one of the 3 (fsr, dlss, xess) techs, the other 2 take almost no effort to add in as well. So little effort that modders have managed to shove them in to games that exclude them for whatever reason, sometimes achieving it in a matter of hours.
All that said… Dlss is definitely better quality than fsr. “Some people might tell” is an understatement.
Your 3080 cant run frame generation because it wouldn’t improve your framerate with that gpu architecture. Just like software dlss wont improve framerate on a 1080.
Nvidia isnt some boogeyman holding back these techs because they just want to force people to buy new cards. They are definitely making tech that only works on the newest cards to try and get more sales, dont get me wrong, but its not arbitrary.
dalingrin@lemm.ee 10 months ago
No one is saying FSR should be excluded.
Though if there’s only going to be one hardware agnostic upscaler then I’d rather it be XESS than FSR.
eager_eagle@lemmy.world 10 months ago
afaik it has the same problem of DLSS of being exclusive though
newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I got a 3080 and I would never want to use DLSS 3 anyways. Keep that stupid ass fake frame generation away. I can put up with upscaling, but that’s pretty much where I draw the line. Fake frames might make it feel smooth, but I’m not into this hobby for the feels.
eager_eagle@lemmy.world 10 months ago
that’s fair, I’m absolutely in it for the feels haha
I just play to have a good time
BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 10 months ago
No exclusives at all are as bad for the gamer economy as only exclusives.
I’m interested in the next version of FSR, it’s rumored to include frame generation.
eager_eagle@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Can you elaborate on that? I don’t see a clear benefit of exclusives to the user base or industry in general, only to those involved.
Kelly@lemmy.world 10 months ago
If small devs are expected to support every platform day one that increases the barrier to entry.
A world where small teams start their release on one of two platform they find advantageous and then port their successful titles to other platforms after is probably safest for them and offers the most product diversity for consumers.