Comment on It is deeply bad that a moderator can remove any post or reply.
hedgehog@ttrpg.network 3 weeks agoAs a user, you can:
- Review instance and community rules prior to participating
- Review the moderator logs to confirm that moderation activities have been in line with the rules
- If you notice a discrepancy, e.g., over-moderation, you can hold the mods accountable and draw attention to it or simply choose not to engage in that instance or community
- Host your own instance
- Create communities in an existing instance or your own instance
If you host your own instance and communities within that instance, then at that point, you have full control, right? Other instances can de-federate from yours.
rainrain@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I am aware of that. But still, giving somebody the power to arbitrarily censor and modify our conversation is a fundamentally bad thing.
hypnicjerk@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
go outside and have conversations in person if you’re genuinely this concerned about it. you fundamentally have very little control over your device or network connection without deep technical knowledge, so maybe start there?
hedgehog@ttrpg.network 3 weeks ago
Then why are you doing that, and why aren’t you at least hosting your own instance?
rainrain@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
It’s a discussion of principle.
This is a foreign concept?
hedgehog@ttrpg.network 3 weeks ago
It appears to be a foreign concept for you.
I don’t believe that it’s a fundamentally bad thing to converse in moderated spaces; you do. You say “giving somebody the power to arbitrarily censor and modify our conversation is a fundamentally bad thing” like it’s a fact, indicating you believe this, but you’ve been given the tools to avoid giving others the power to moderate your conversation and you have chosen not to use them. This means that you are saying “I have chosen to do a thing that I believe is fundamentally bad.” Why would anyone trust such a person?
For that matter, is this even a discussion? People clearly don’t agree with you and you haven’t explained your reasoning. If a moderator’s actions are logged and visible to users, and users have the choice of engaging under the purview of a moderator or moving elsewhere, what’s the problem?
Why?
In other words, “let me ignore valid arguments for why moderation is needed.”
It doesn’t.
In places where moderator’s actions are unlogged and they’re not accountable to the community, sure - and that’s true on mainstream social media. Here, moderators are performing a service for the benefit of the community.
Have you never heard the phrase “Trust, but verify?”
This is the better way.