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SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

tsen-taür, where ü is not an umlaut, but a diaeresis meaning that you pronounce the second vowel in a row, like in naïve or coöperation.

I come from Poland and we read in a consistent way.

The way shit’s written \s.

Such a question would make no sense in Polish.

www.newyorker.com/…/the-curse-of-the-diaeresis

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toynbee@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
From now on, I shall only refer to them as kentauru.

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- SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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  - toynbee@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Not a fan of lojban?
    
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Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

coöperation.

I come from Poland and we read in a consistent way.

Okay I don’t doubt yours is consistent, but it’s really hard to grasp. I come from Finland and in the Nordics you would never get oö öo aä or äa combinations I’m pretty sure. Å can go with a but a doesn’t really go with ö I don’t think and uhm.

Anyways my point is I’ve no idea how you would go about trying to pronounce coöperation. Or rather what your idea of it is.

I’d couldn’t argue which is more constant, but Finnish is every consistent. And pretty much in line with IPA.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/Finnish

hevonen [ˈheʋonen]

hernekeitto [ˈherneˌkːei̯tːo]

tule! [ˈtuˌle]

Example of words with their IPA pronunciation. When something like “geography” in English is “ʤɔ́grəfɪj”.

Those don’t look alike at all. So I’m sure polish can be consistent, but to me at least, I’d be afraid of how complex that consistency is.

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In Finnish wr say “kentauri” and in ipa that’s pretty much the same.

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- SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Finnish pronunciation feels to me like a subset of Polish. The only difference is the stressed syllable.
  
  You are saying you never read two vowels in a row? You just make them longer?
  
  After writing that I see that contradicts the “subset” sentence.
  
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  - Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    You are saying you never read two vowels in a row?
    
    No. I’m saying the ones which are umlauted don’t go with their umlauted partners. You can äiti easily. That’s mom. But you can’t have Äati. That’s not a word. Ä + a don’t go together.
    
    I may be wrong because of how flexible Finnish is, but I don’t think a Finnish word exists where there is either äa oe öo combination. Äo maybe, but not likely.
    
    Its something calmed vowel harmony, which is sort of why I don’t see Polish as being any where near Finnish. The amount of consonants you guys use is unnatural to a Finnish person.
    
    Finnish pronunciation is definitely not a “subset of Polish”. Polish is a PIE-language. We’re not even in the same language tree bro.
    
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    SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    What I mean by subset is: a Polish person will pronounce every finnish word correctly and a Finnish person will pronounce most of Polish words correctly.
    
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