100% of my office relies on at least WSL.
All our servers are Linux.
Tons of huge multi-national companies are already using Google Docs which run great in Linux.
It’s coming.
The just install Linux crowd gets really old. How’s that gonna help on a work machine where I HAVE to use Office to collaborate? Oh right, it’s not! Totally unhelpful.
rumba@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
turnip@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
Its a cybersecurity issue so it is inevitable, browser apps are the future because corporations don’t want files sitting on a filesystem, they want to keep them in their enterprise storage. ChromeOS is the future, or something like it.
curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
Eh, depending on what’s being done office.com is fine for most.
That aside, if this is a business and you’re using office apps, you have an account that should be getting used during setup. Thats not who this workaround is for, and not who the “just install Linux” comment is for.
AtariDump@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Eh, depending on what’s being done office.com is fine for most.
I want to live in your fantasy land.
if you’re an admin with O365 and not using AAD on your devices, its your own problem.
Why do I want even more shit in the cloud? Some stuff I want on-prem and don’t need it in the cloud.
Plus, it’s now Entra ID.
curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
I want to live in your fantasy land.
Its not hard. Just have a production Linux desktop and a production windows laptop, and it becomes pretty clear what you can do. Basic memos and emails are no problem through the web, and thats a huge number of people.
Why do I want even more shit in the cloud? Some stuff I want on-prem and don’t need it in the cloud.
Why buy cloud shit and then not use cloud shit?
Just don’t buy cloud shit and join to a local domain.
Plus, it’s now Entra ID.
Let me know when I need to type that at the CLI and I’ll stop calling it aad.
jagged_circle@feddit.nl 4 days ago
Libre Office…
utopiah@lemmy.world 4 days ago
work machine where I HAVE to use Office to collaborate?
Taking the bait, what is specific to Office that is needed?
QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Sharepoint mainly. Mandatory at work. I don’t run IT.
utopiah@lemmy.world 2 days ago
AFAICT that’s supported rclone.org/onedrive/
Ofiuco@lemmy.cafe 4 days ago
Because they aren’t trying to help, they are just trying to feel superior about something by fixating on their survivor bias and ignoring whatever context people might have for still using Windows or having a dual-boot instead of just getting rid of it.
fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 3 days ago
I don’t think this is it. Many Linux users who evangelize were Windows users once, they have a pretty good understanding of the context and the challenges that exist in that migration for both them and less tech-savy others.
Inching closer snd closer to the Year of the Linux Desktop, to the point where Windows-focused media like LTT started talking about it, didn’t happen because people said “both are good”.
It’s like politics, change for the better in a capatilist system happens with noise.
I’m a huge FOSS advocate and recommend Linux over Windows. I understand the challenges it repsents for users in a work environment. And those users will get Windows, for now, but they will continue to hear about its problems and the benefits of Linux whenever they ask me or complain. Because that’s what opens the doors, even if it’s annoying in the moment.
Just like politics, repetition of the problems they are making worse, repetition, and more repetition, until the ignorant learn the better path forward.
Ofiuco@lemmy.cafe 3 days ago
I doubt this… A LOT.
Most of the users recommending Linux (over here and reddit) have terrible survivor bias, they evangelize as if the change was the easiest thing in the world, as if you could find anything and just keep using it (for whatever you use it), as if it was business as usual, just another day of turning on your pc and doing whatever you were doing before.
But we both know that’s not it, even worse, depending on hardware some things might just never work so you’ll be forced to go back to windows or shell out money to upgrade.
I use both and funny enough, I could switch my mother’s pc to Linux because she only uses it to watch youtube and movies, so firefox with adblockers is all she needs and that basically works.
I have a dual-boot because some programs, games and self-hosted things just don’t work on linux and I’ve been troubleshooting for a year or so and the solution is to upgrade my whole pc so… yeah.
I have another family member whose pc I oversee and I wouldn’t even dare to try to install linux on her pc, that would just mean infinite headaches for me and constant complaining from her.
Most solutions on linux require using the terminal, just that alone is enough to scare most users and the tinkering level you need on linux is not even close enough to what you need in windows (yes, contrary to what the fediverse believes, most users don’t go into deep customization of their os), just gaming alone you need at least a slight tinkering for most games and it’s a 50/50 even if protondb says it should run out of the box due to hardware incompatibilities (and I’m not talking emulation or piracy, just some game that was bought on steam).
And that’s where you’re wrong, kiddo.
The companies will use whatever their directors tell them to, which usually is whatever company offers them more in some sense (mostly setting it up for them and support without extra cost) because it’s always about money, not about what the workers think it’s best.
From my experience, I couldn’t even picture a normal office user attempting to use linux… that would require months of training and (at least where I’m from) that’s something companies don’t do anymore, you either know how to do everything or don’t even attempt at asking for a job there.
I… don’t think you watch, read or hear the news, right? Because real life is showing exactly the opposite of your hypothesis.