That’s where Russian trolls come in,
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Pirata@lemm.ee 2 months agoThis is basically it. It is just harder to run a fascist oligarchy these days. People are way too connected and are sympathetic to other people from other countries. The propaganda can only go so far.
Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Pirata@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Do you think people are buying it, though? I’ve never seen so much cynicism against all things controlled media as I see today?
angrystego@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You’re in a nice bubble, I see lots of people buying the Russian propaganda shit.
Pirata@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I think you’re also in a bubble though.
Which is why I’m talking about people who aren’t terminally online degenerates like us.
People who are largely apolitical, like my friends and family, none of them is supporting Russia.
I even went to a few protests in front of the Russian embassy. Would you be surprised to know that there were exactly zero protests in front of the Ukrainian embassy in Russia’s defense?
Krudler@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Please stop smoking the drapes. We are in the rise of massive fascism worldwide - I literally don’t understand how you could make such a statement.
green@feddit.nl 2 months ago
Yeah, the world is sliding into global fascism, and fast.
Even “Never Again” Germany has a major political party sympathetic with Nazis (AfD). If you talk to the average person in America, it is okay to have all of your rights stripped as long as you can use TikTok. We’re in very dark times right now.
If anything, I think that people from around the world are very disconnected on average. The average person can barely care to support Ukraine, when Putin is clear-as-day running Stalin’s playbook. Lemmy and Reddit is not real life.
Krudler@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yeah we have people that are fucking starving and borderline ready to riot in the streets like the depression in the twenties, child labor in the states is on the rise … Fascism is on the rise… Basic human rights in the developed world are on the decline… Concentration of wealth is at an all-time high and the population which does all the work has the fewest resources in the history of the entire earth…
But “fuck Nestle” is the refrain
Pirata@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I understand we are sliding in that direction. My point is, once there, its harder to keep that regime alive.
How many people are okay with what Israel is doing? Or Russia? Or (now) the US? Despite the propaganda and censoring all over the internet, not many. Most people aren’t buying it.
angrystego@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Once you’re inside, the propaganda is all you get. See people in Russia and China. The repressions become draconian and people just go on with their lives in fear of losing them. With today’s tech, I think fascism is actually easier to keep up.
Pirata@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I respectfully disagree. Cultural backgrounds also play a role and Russia and China have never known democracy.
Fascism in practice (not as a demented dream) is a harder sell in the West although we’re not immune to it and we should 100℅ remain vigilant and fight it’s grown at all costs.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Is it fascism or corporatism?