Comment on Apple to Limit iPhone 15 USB-C Cables to USB 2.0 Speeds: Report

• hackitfast@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  There has to be a USB-C. Some people will always want wires to transfer data, even if it’s through their “wireless charger”, which is proprietary.

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  • Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    And some people will always want a headphone jack… oh wait…

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    • zzz@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The difference with wireless listening vs. charging is that the former doesn’t need close to 2x the power of the cable-bound method and doesn’t destroy the phone’s battery in the process, unlike the latter

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      • Yoddel_Hickory@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Wireless listening absolutely needs more than 2x the power of wired listening. It also needs charging an entire other device. You’re right that it doesn’t affect the phone battery, though I don’t think wireless charging “destroys” it.

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    • hackitfast@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I can’t imagine Europe wouldn’t lose their shit if Apple removed it entirely. And if Android manufacturers did that consumers would also promptly lose their shit.

      Beyond the consumer, having a physical port is beneficial to Apple. Businesses use attached devices (e.g. barcode scanners, DSLR camera attachments, charging stations) all the time. It’s more common on Android phones, but I do see iPhones using these sorts of things. My local movie theater uses iPhones to scan tickets with an attached Lightning scanner, for example.

      I don’t disagree that wireless charging is more convenient, but from the standpoint of being in emergency situations where a cable is needed to charge your phone, it wouldn’t be easily possible if the port is removed. People might carry around charging bricks, and while wireless charging bricks do exist they’re not commonplace and they’re certainly slower than charging by wire. I can tell you nobody will want to carry around a portable wireless charger, although MagSafe is almost already just that.

      Playing devil’s advocate, it’s possible Apple does want things like portable wireless chargers to proliferate, like the one you can buy that slap onto the back of your phone. It means you’re buying more of their shit, which is something they seem to love so much. It would mean you’re buying MagSafe chargers or whatever proprietary crap they manufacture. I still do see it becoming an issue in emergency situations though, e.g. teens (a large user base of iPhones) use their phones a lot and borrow chargers from each other all the time.

      Impossible? No. Unlikely? Yes, for now.

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  • sznio@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Some people will always want wires to transfer data,

    But that group of people is growing smaller and smaller with each year. I haven’t used a phone cable to transfer files once in the last 8 years. Phones just sync to cloud.

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    • BURN@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Same. I think the last time I used a cable to transfer data onto my phone was iTunes syncing my iPhone 5s music. Once I moved to Spotify I never needed to sync again.

      It’s not the use case of everyone, but I’d bet the majority of iPhone users haven’t used a data transfer in years

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    • hackitfast@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I mean yeah I barely use cables to transfer data, but there are times I need to plug it in to back up files. The Pixel 7 Pro is also a bar of soap and slides off of my wireless charger, so it’s more reliable for me to use a USB-C cable. I also like having the phone next to me in bed, and so I use a USB-C cable.

      It just seems odd to remove something that is so reliable, even if only to have as a backup method. It would only make sense to remove it if wireless chargers are the dominant form of charging devices, especially in a portable manner.

      Having a port also enables things like game controllers and wired headphones, if the user chooses to do something like that.

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      • Bimbleby@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        About the sliding phone, Apple has proposed a magnetic solution to that.

        Haven’t tried it, but seems to solve that specific issue.

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    • lud@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I suspect cables are used more on Android because its filesystem is open so you can basically use an Android as a flash drive, which is very convenient at times.

      Also since Androids in general have a way faster wired connection, it’s more likely to be used for that.

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    • Noodle07@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah same, if I need a transfer I use gdrive

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      • HaggierRapscallier@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I don’t, for privacy reasons. I use either cable or drop.lol

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  • 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Consumer demands appear to just kinda bounce off of Apple, it’s remarkable really.

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