You still have the freedom to not use alternative app stores.
RainbowHedgehog@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
I thought that “walled-garden” was for security and privacy in the case of Apple? I always relied on them for that.
xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 4 weeks ago
Brumefey@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
I don’t get the argument. It’s not like you are forced to buy iPhones, there a plenty of brands available. According to recent data iOS is 30% of the market while android is almost 70% (in Europe). I used android phones for most of my life. I tried to install alternative OS few time but my banking apps all refused to execute. There were always plenty of apps that were forbidden to remove (Facebook, Samsung applications,…). Then 4 years ago I bought an iPhone. No preinstalled shitty news app, Facebook, etc. Was even able to uninstall the default apps that I do not use. I feel to have much more freedom than before. Apple is not perfect by any means but it’s far from being a prison.
Krik@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
From a market regulation view it is more of a prison than Android.
An example is apps have to use WebKit. That’s right Forefox for iOS doesn’t use Gecko and Google Chrome for iOS doesn’t use Chromium. - That’s the walled garden.noodlejetski@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
as long as you don’t want to do some crazy unthinkable thing, like, say, getting notifications on your smartwatch that isn’t made by Apple
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
I’m having trouble conceptualizing the words you just used, in my brain.
TiggerYumYum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
What other brands are available to use for iOS?
Petter1@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Yea, now try to get away from apple again
They have me as well, because I am connected with my family through various apple only features now. Apple One, apple family share, location sharing with family, mail service, photos in the cloud, and a lot more
My family would rather gift me an iPhone than switching all to FOSS services, hell, even only switching my GF to not iOS is pain.
HK65@sopuli.xyz 4 weeks ago
Vertical integration is bad, m’kay?
xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 4 weeks ago
My Android phone (Realme) allowed me to uninstall most pre-installed bloatware.
Mandrilleren@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
You can certainly argue that more control makes iPhones safer, since its harder to get malicious software on the phone. But Apple is also abusing their control for their own gain.
You could also argue that locking you in a room would be safer than letting you walk freely out in the world. But I don’t we want that either.
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
I dunno, are meals provided in the locked room? The world is a pretty fucking awful place right now.
Mandrilleren@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Yes but only oatmeal (no toppings).
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Oh goddamnit
FrChazzz@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
The security approach was what first drew me to Apple back in like 2005. The whole focus on proprietary software that resulted in practically zero malware was definitely worth me having to do file-type conversions on documents and all that crap to keep up with people on Windows. And I loved it. And I kept adding every device and loving how seamless they all interact with each other.
But then there’s that shadow side you refer to. The gradual dumbing down of software, the constant hand-holding. The walled garden began to feel like a lock-in.
My last new Mac purchase was in 2011. I still use that machine. But I was not getting security updates and other things I use were leaving me behind so I decided to give Linux a try. Chose Ubuntu and the hardware was suddenly like new again. Apple makes beautiful machines but waste them on some increasingly basic software. My Linux-run Macs have made me fall in love with computers all over again.
If this somehow results in me being able to run like Graphene on my iPhone in a few years, or even connect my Apple Watch to a non-Apple phone, I will be pretty excited.
RainbowHedgehog@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
If people want a phone that acts like an android, just buy an android.
Why are people trying to make iPhones into androids?
Petter1@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Well, but it is just as hard to find exploits for white heads, and this leads to open exploits that last for ages, even if actively used by black heads.
There is no security by obfuscation
max_dryzen@mander.xyz 4 weeks ago
Its primary utility is shoring up their image as the brand where ‘everything just works’ and op/interop is a thoughtless zero friction process. Compromise that and you lose normie, bigtime. So everyone gets locked in…and you get the walled prison basketball court
Halliphax@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
You’re getting downvoted but how much would you like to bet that once the walled garden is down/their party apps can be installed; we’ll suddenly see “security related apps” installed by some EU law.
If I sound paranoid there’s already an app on Android that scans the content of your photo library (iPhones have this too but it’s only enabled during parental controls, Androids is stealth-enabled 24/7).
Ledericas@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
It’s called something android core, you can uninstall it, but it may comeback each update.
Ironfist@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
That’s the lie they tell you, yeah.
Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Nope, it was so they could take the 30% cut of every penny that is spent on one of their platforms, and also so that it would be extremely inconvenient to leave their ecosystem since doing so would mean leaving behind most of your data.