Comment on I've tried nearly every browser out there and these are my top 6 (none are Chrome)

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• BlueEther@no.lastname.nz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I beg to differ, when Opera had its own engine and wasn’t Chinese owned - back in the early '00s.

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  • kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Opera also was a good alternative on Symbian phones right or whatever OS Nokia used before they switched to Windows Phone, I think.

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    • Rinox@feddit.it ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Opera mini was also great when I had very little MBs of internet traffic in my plan. Nowadays I have pretty much infinite traffic, so I haven’t used it in ages

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      • kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I think I remember Opera Mini’s layout though I didn’t much use it. It was a great alternative especially on mobile more than a decade back.

        But yes especially after changing ownership, switching browser engines and years down the line; things have changed.

        I think I have their desktop variant a try sometime ago but didn’t find it compelling enough. I haven’t even used their Android fork. I keep using a Firefox fork only :p.

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  • kobra@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    this era of the internet was such a fun time.

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    • BlueEther@no.lastname.nz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I suspect that we may be looking back with rose tinted glasses, but the main stream internet is pretty crap atm

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  • Damage@feddit.it ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Opera was so good. Disable images, force custom CSS, gestures! Stuff no one else had at the time.

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    • swelter_spark@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And the ability to switch browser engines on the fly. That was a great feature.

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      • philpo@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        And it has some options to interpret data following strict W3C standards. Which was incredibly helpful when learning, as it encouraged me (and a lot of others) to don’t go down the IE/Netscape and later Chrome “specialities” road. (Yes,I am that old…I still remember MS fucking FrontPage)

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      • Damage@feddit.it ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        User agent spoofing, tabs back when nobody had them, sidebar…

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    • wfh@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      gestures!

      Still the reason that 20+ years later the second thing I install on any browser is a gestures extension (the first one is always uBlock Origin, obviously).

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  • tomjuggler@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah I was 100% Opera on desktop and mobile until they switched to chromium and broke everything from before. Still pissed about that, lost all my bookmarks and notes at one point.

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  • Engywuck@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Opera Corp. is Norvegian: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_(company)

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    • Chefdano3@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The browser was sold to Chinese investors though.

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• klu9@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  As someone who used Opera 2002-2013 (Presto era), I quibble with the “always”.

  But I do not quibble with the “is”.

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  • bilb@lem.monster ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I loved opera back then.

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  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Exactly. I loved Opera and bailed when they abandoned their engine.

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    • klu9@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, me too. Never used it since.

      So I was glad when Opera co-founder von Tetzchner announced Vivaldi, and I did use it for a couple of years. But I don’t want to become dependent on something not completely FLOSS, so lately using mainly Firefox mods like Floorp, Zen and Firedragon.

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      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        My history w/ browsers:

        1. IE - everyone started here
        2. Firefox - switched once I heard about it
        3. Chrome - when it came out, it was fast, which was cool
        4. Opera - switched as soon as I heard about it; was about as fast as Chrome
        5. Firefox - switched when Opera became a Chromium browser

        Since I came from old IE days and started my career having to backport stuff to IE, I care a lot about engine competition, because IE owning everything made everything worse. So that’s still my #1 concern today, hence why I use Firefox.

        I do dabble with Firefox forks though. I use Fennec on my phone, am trying out Mullvad on my laptop, etc. But I’m going to stay within the Gecko-family of browsers until a viable alternative to Blink (Chrome’s engine) emerges (e.g. Servo or LadyBird).

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• floofloof@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Same for ZDNet.

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  • kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Many sites have become worse. I think stuff like Cnet, PCMag (which still has a digital magazine I think)were much better in the previous era.

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• Zizzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yep. Dont use Opera. They are known for being an incredibly scummy company that has done illegal things. Im 98% sure opera gx is spyware

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• wedge@lemmy.one ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It was an excellent standalone install porn browser for a couple of decades. God seed Opera… God speed.

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