Comment on FOSS infrastructure is under attack by AI companies

• MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What will happen is that politicians will see this as another reason to push for everyone having their ID associated with their Internet traffic.

  You’re right. Which is exactly why companies should be exhibiting better behaviour and self regulate before they make the internet infinitely worse off for everyone.

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  • big_slap@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    self regulation is a joke. a frw bad apples always spoil the bunch.

    what needs to happen is regulation, period. force all companies to abide by laws that just make sense, and all these problems go away.

    see: GDPR

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    • oldfart@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What did GDPR solve? Did we get rid of advertisers sharing data?

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      • big_slap@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        nope, but now we are aware of how many times our data is shared with and with whom because of it.

        here’s a short breakdown of what it has accomplished:

        The GDPR lists six data processing principles that data controllers must comply with. Personal data must be:

        Processed lawfully, fairly and transparently.
        Collected only for specific legitimate purposes.
        Adequate, relevant and limited to what is necessary.
        Accurate and, where necessary, kept up to date.
        Stored only as long as is necessary.
        Processed in a manner that ensures appropriate security.
        

        Lawful processing

        Except for special categories of personal data, which cannot be processed except under certain circumstances, personal data can only be processed:

        If the data subject has given their consent;
        To meet contractual obligations;
        To comply with legal obligations;
        To protect the data subject’s vital interests;
        For tasks in the public interest; and
        For the legitimate interests of the organisation.
        

        Data subjects’ rights

        Data subjects have:

        The right to be informed;
        The right of access;
        The right to rectification;
        The right to erasure;
        The right to restrict processing;
        The right to data portability;
        The right to object; and
        Rights concerning automated decision-making and profiling.
        

        Learn how to map your data and establish a lawful basis for processing Valid consent

        There are stricter rules regarding consent:

        Consent must be freely given, specific, informed and unambiguous.
        A request for consent must be intelligible and in clear, plain language.
        Silence, pre-ticked boxes and inactivity will no longer suffice as consent.
        Consent can be withdrawn at any time.
        Consent for online services from a child is only valid with parental authorisation.
        Organisations must be able to evidence consent.
        

        Data protection by design and by default

        Data controllers and processors must implement technical and organisational measures that are designed to implement the data processing principles effectively.

        Appropriate safeguards should be integrated into the processing.
        Data protection must be considered at the design stage of any new process, system or technology.
        A DPIA (data protection impact assessment) is an integral part of privacy by design.
        

        Transparency and privacy notices

        Organisations must be clear about how, why and by whom personal data will be processed.

        When personal data is collected directly from data subjects, data controllers must provide a privacy notice at the time of collection.
        When personal data is not obtained directly from data subjects, data controllers must provide a privacy notice without undue delay, and within a month. This must be done the first time they communicate with the data subject.
        For all processing activities, data controllers must decide how the data subjects will be informed, and design privacy notices accordingly. Notices can be issued in stages.
        Privacy notices must be provided to data subjects in a concise, transparent and easily accessible form, using clear and plain language.
        

        Data transfers outside the EU

        Where the EU has designated a country as providing an adequate level of data protection;
        Through standard contractual clauses or binding corporate rules; or
        By complying with an approved certification mechanism.
        

        Many non-EU organisations that process EU residents’ personal data also need to appoint an EU representative following the end of the transition period. Mandatory data breach notification

        The GDPR defines a personal data breach as “a breach of security leading to the accidental or unlawful destruction, loss, alteration, unauthorised disclosure of, or access to, personal data transmitted, stored or otherwise processed”.

        Data processors are required to report all breaches of personal data to data controllers.
        Data controllers are required to report breaches to the supervisory authority (the Data Protection Commission (DPC) in Ireland) within 72 hours of becoming aware of them if there is a risk to data subjects’ rights and freedoms.
        Data subjects themselves must be notified without undue delay if there is a high risk to their rights and freedoms.
        

        DPOs (data protection officers)

        You must be able to demonstrate compliance with the GDPR. This includes:

        Establishing a governance structure with roles and responsibilities;
        Keeping a detailed record of all data processing operations;
        Documenting data protection policies and procedures;
        Carrying out DPIAs (data protection impact assessments) for high-risk processing operations; Learn more about DPIAs
        Implementing appropriate measures to secure personal data;
        Conducting staff awareness training; and
        Where required, appointing a data protection officer.
        

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  • C45513@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    according to history, this sadly never works

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  • fjordo@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Exactly, we’ve already seen this in the past. GDPR is a good example. Whilst I’m glad this regulation exists, it wouldn’t be necessary if megacorps would have behaved.

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• Buelldozer@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What will happen is that politicians will see this as another reason to push for everyone having their ID associated with their Internet traffic.

  Yes, because like or not that’s the only possible solution. If all traffic was required to be signed and the signatures were tied to an entity then you could refuse unsigned traffic and if signed traffic was causing problems you’d know who it was and have recourse.

  I don’t like this solution but it’s the only way forward that I can see.

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  • trougnouf@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    How do you have more recourse countering a random third world IP vs a random third world person when both are outside your juridiction?

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    • Buelldozer@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Unsigned traffic = drop. Signed traffic that becomes an annoyance = drop. If signed traffic becomes more than an annoyance then you know who to report to the authorities and even in Brazil there’s authorities.

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  • iarigby@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    is it? Someone mentioned proof of work being effective for Tor.

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    • Buelldozer@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      PoW has the advantage of being anonymous but I don’t like it as solution for the simple fact that it uses more electricity. It’s just not a very green solution.

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      • iarigby@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        it doesn’t have to be only meaningless computations. And even if it were, the cost is nothing compared to such a huge scale of privacy infringement

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