Comment on FOSS infrastructure is under attack by AI companies
fjordo@feddit.uk 4 weeks ago
I wish these companies would realise that acting like this is a very fast way to get scraping outlawed altogether, which is a shame because it can be genuinely useful (archival, automation, etc).
jol@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
How can you outlaw something a company in another conhtinent is doing? And specially when they are becoming better as disguising themselves as normal traffic? What will happen is that politicians will see this as another reason to push for everyone having their ID associated with their Internet traffic.
MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
You’re right. Which is exactly why companies should be exhibiting better behaviour and self regulate before they make the internet infinitely worse off for everyone.
big_slap@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
self regulation is a joke. a frw bad apples always spoil the bunch.
what needs to happen is regulation, period. force all companies to abide by laws that just make sense, and all these problems go away.
see: GDPR
oldfart@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
What did GDPR solve? Did we get rid of advertisers sharing data?
C45513@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
according to history, this sadly never works
fjordo@feddit.uk 4 weeks ago
Exactly, we’ve already seen this in the past. GDPR is a good example. Whilst I’m glad this regulation exists, it wouldn’t be necessary if megacorps would have behaved.
Buelldozer@lemmy.today 4 weeks ago
Yes, because like or not that’s the only possible solution. If all traffic was required to be signed and the signatures were tied to an entity then you could refuse unsigned traffic and if signed traffic was causing problems you’d know who it was and have recourse.
I don’t like this solution but it’s the only way forward that I can see.
trougnouf@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
How do you have more recourse countering a random third world IP vs a random third world person when both are outside your juridiction?
Buelldozer@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Unsigned traffic = drop. Signed traffic that becomes an annoyance = drop. If signed traffic becomes more than an annoyance then you know who to report to the authorities and even in Brazil there’s authorities.
iarigby@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
is it? Someone mentioned proof of work being effective for Tor.
Buelldozer@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
PoW has the advantage of being anonymous but I don’t like it as solution for the simple fact that it uses more electricity. It’s just not a very green solution.