Comment on Undocumented 'Backdoor' Found In Chinese Bluetooth Chip Used By a Billion Devices.

fubarx@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• Bloomcole@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  So explained to me, a tech illiterate in comparison, this is China bad scaremongering?
  ‘Backdoor’ sounds malicious with intent.

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  • ozymandias117@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The article is a security company trying to hype their company with a theoretical attack that currently has no hypothetical way to be abused

    The China part just came from OP

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    • ysjet@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The article is a security company trying to hype their company ruining their reputation in an incredibly ill-thought out attack that companies will ABSOLUTELY remember.

      Even worse, it just makes this security company look incompetent. Like a home security company that announces a huge vulnerability in Schlage locks- there’s a key that can unlock the lock included with every lock sold!!11!!!11!one!

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      • ozymandias117@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I agree, but unfortunately, this has become common since Heartbleed, and they seem to be able to sell their snake oil to CTOs…

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    • Bloomcole@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      thank you

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  • fubarx@lemmy.ml ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Pull up a chair and pour yourself a stiff beverage…

    TLDR: Don’t Panic.

    If you have a regular old processor (MCU) and want to give it wireless capability, you can buy a wireless chip and stick it next to the processor, then have the MCU talk to it through a wired connection (typically UART or SPI). Think of it as the old ATDT commands that had your PC control your old screeching modems.

    To standardize this communication protocol, folks came up with the Host Controller Interface (HCI) so you didn’t have to reinvent that protocol for every new chip. This was handy for people on the MCU side, since they could write firmware that worked with any wireless chip out there, and could swap out for a cheaper/faster one with minimal change.

    Fast forward to the era of integrated MCU+wireless, where you had a little ARM or other lightweight processor plus a little radio, and the processor could run programs in a high-level API that abstracted out the low level wireless stuff. Plus, you could use the same radio for multiple wireless protocols, like BLE, wifi, ANT, etc. Nordic and TI were early adopters of this method.

    Typically, it was the vendor’s own processor talking to their own wireless module, but they still implemented the full HCI interface and let it be accessed externally. Why? So if your design needed an extra beefy processor and used the MCU+wireless chip as a simple communication module, this would still work. The teeny MCU could be used to run something extra in parallel, or it could just sit idle. A typical example could be a laptop or cell phone. The little MCU is too small for everything else, so you pair it with a big chip and the big chip drives the little chip through HCI.

    Sure, it would be cheaper if you just went with a basic ‘dumb’ wireless chip, as folks from CSR, Broadcom, and Dialog kept pointing out. But the market demanded integrated chips so we could have $10 activity trackers, fancy overpriced lightbulbs, and Twerking Santas (www.amazon.com/twerking-santa-claus/s?k=twerking+…).

    For integrated MCU+wireless chips, most vendors didn’t release the super low-level firmware that ran between them. There was no need. It was internal plumbing. They exposed SDKs so you could control the wireless chip, or high-level Bluetooth/wifi APIs so you could connect and talk to the outside world in a few lines of code. These SDKs were unique to each vendor (like Nordic’s nRF Connect library, or TI’s SimpleLink SDK).

    Then along came Espressif out of Shanghai, China with a combo chip (ESP8266) that offered processor + wifi and was so cheap and easy to program that it took the hobbyist market by storm. Oh, god… so many LED light strips, perfect for Christmas and blinky EDM lightup outfits (hello, Adafruit: www.adafruit.com/category/65).

    Fast forward and Espressif drops the ESP32. A bigger, faster Tensilica Xtensa processor, with built-in flash storage, plus wifi, Bluetooth, and BLE in one place. Plus lots of peripherals, busses, and IO pins. Also, running FreeRTOS and eventually Arduino SDKs, and MicroPython. All for less than $5! It took off like a rocket. So many products. Plus, you could run them as little webservers. Who doesn’l love a little webserver in their pocket?

    It’s gone through a few variations, including swapping out the Tensilica with an open-source RISC-V MCU, but otherwise it’s a massive seller and the gateway drug for most IoT/Smarthome nerds.

    So along come these Tarlogic researchers, looking to build a direct USB to bluetooth library. This way, you can drive the wireless from, say Linux, directly. There are already BLE to USB stacks, but this one is giving access at the HCI level, in a C library. Handy if you’re doing research or developing drivers, but not the sort of thing your typical DIY pereon needs.

    As part of their process, the researchers decide to dump the really low level ESP32 firmware and reverse engineer it.

    A typical HCI implementation is a giant event loop that handles HCI opcodes and parameters. Host wants to talk to the outside world, it sets up some registers, configures the unique MAC address, then opens a channel and starts sending/receiving (hopefully without the modem screeching tones). There are typical packet encoders and decoders, multiple ISO/TCP layers, and the sort of thing that most people assume somebody else has gotten right.

    For fancier implementations, there may be interrupt or DMA support. Sometimes, there’s a multi-tasking part under the hood so they can time-slice between wifi, bluetooth, and ble (aka Fusion or Coexistence support). Not that you should care. The internals of this stuff is usually nobody’s business and the vendors just include a binary blob as part of their SDK that handles things. The host systems just talk HCI. The wireless side talks HCI on the wired side, and wireless on the radio side. Everyone’s happy.

    In the process of reverse engineering the low-level HCI blob, these researchers found a few extra undocumented HCI opcodes. They’re not sure what they’re for, but according to their presentation (documentcloud.org/…/25554812-2025-rootedcon-bluet…) if my super rusty Spanish holds up, it has to do with setting MAC addresses and handling low-level Link-Level Control Protocol communications (www.ellisys.com/technology/een_bt10.pdf).

    Now in an of itself, this is no big deal. ESP32s already let you easily set your own temporary MAC address (randomnerdtutorials.com/get-change-esp32-esp8266-…), so there has to be a way to override the manufacturer one. And LLCP management is a totally geeky low-level thing that the MCU needs when handling wireless packets. There are perfectly good reasons why the opcodes would be there and why Espressif may not have documented them (for example, they could be used only during manufacturing QA).

    So the original presentation is a teeny bit of an exaggeration. Yes, the opcodes exists. But are they nefarious? Should we stick all our ESP32s inside Faraday cages? Is this a secret plan for the CCP to remotely control our lights and plunge the world into chaos?

    As I said before, ONLY if there’s a secret as-yet-undiscovered wireless handshake that gives remote wireless access to these (or really, pretty much any other published HCI opcode). That presentation most definitely doesn’t claim that.

    To see if there is a REAL backdoor, you should wait for an analysis from fine professional wireless debugging vendors like Ellisys (starting models run $30K and up), Frontline, or Spanalytics.

    Incidentally, Tarlogic, the group that put out that paper have their own BLE analyzer product (www.tarlogic.com/es/…/analizador-bluetooth-le/). They look to know their stuff, so they should know better than putting out clickbait-y hair-on-fire reports. But come on, who can resist a good CCP/backdoor headline? Will media run with this and blow it out of proportion? No way!

    If you’ve read this far, you must safely be on your third drink or the edible’s just kicked in. Stop panicking, and wait until the pro sniffer and Bluetooth forum people give their opinions.

    If it turns out there is an actual WIRELESS backdoor, then by all means, feel free to panic and toss out all your Smarthome plugs. Go ahead and revert to getting up and flicking on your light switch like a peasant. Have a sad, twerk-free Christmas.

    But over a few undocumented HCI opcodes? Have another drink and relax.

    Happy Sunday.

    PS: controversy already up on wikipedia: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESP32

    PPS: you may want to stock up on ESP32s for your light-up Christmas light project. Don’t be surprised if Espressif doesn’t get smacked with some hard tariffs or an outright ban, based on these ragebait headlines 🤷🏻‍♂️

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