Comment on dear republicans, what's the point of alienating every single ally of the US?
Objection@lemmy.ml 1 day agomy class interests
spare me the tankie cringe
Lmao. Even just talking about class is tankie, apparently.
If I’m just comparing how shit the Russian gov is vs the US gov, your interests aren’t relevant in the first place.
I’m not, and that wasn’t what the conversation was about.
Why stability/security in the West/World is vital for prosperity and won’t be possible unless Russia is defeated
“Defeating Russia” sounds extremely destabilizing. Do you genuinely want to eliminate the country through military force? That’s completely insane, they’re a nuclear power, you’ll end all life on earth. There will be no “security” “stability” or “prosperity” in a nuclear wasteland.
So possibility A is a nuclear wasteland, possibility B is just letting them have the country and going on with our lives. I’ll take option B, thanks.
Yet you think it was super difficult to predict Trumps relationship to Project 2025 lmao.
Never said this, you’re lying. What I said was that it was difficult to convince voters to connect Project 2025 to Trump.
I’ll forgive your lie because it seems like you’re genuinely incapable of distinguishing between those two proposition, but if you continue lying about what I said, I’m walking away. Lies are a pet peeve.
Tell me, how do you know that supporting Ukraine properly doesn’t result in Russia’s defeat in, say another year
Because of my assessment of the situation. It’s a stalemate, there’s no realistic possibility of them reclaiming all their lost territory in the next year.
or that surrendering them doesn’t result in death camps all over Ukraine for years?
How do I know Ukraine winning wouldn’t result in death camps all over Ukraine for years?
zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Not sure why you pulled this absurd strawman out of your ass. They can just fuck off back to their own country, it’s not that hard.
You said “nobody could’ve predicted that Trump would put project 2025 heads into government”. So shove your forgiveness up your ass you tankie clown. Don’t patronize me.
Oh is this your expert military opinion? Pfft.
Did forget that I said “supporting Ukraine properly” or are you just selectively blind?
Which side has leaders with warrants for genocide again? If that question isn’t proof that you’re a bad faith clown just saying nonsense for the sake of debate, idk what is.
Objection@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
That’s a lie. Link the comment where you think I said that.
zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Is what you actually said, I didn’t recall it too well but I wasn’t “lying”. Knowing he was going to put them in government was easily predictable to anyone with open eyes. Buying the “Trump distanced himself from project 2025” bs is pure retardation.
Objection@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
These distinctions completely change the meaning. “Being able to predict” vs “being able to prove to a broad population” are completely different things. Of course it could be predicted, I certainly did, but that doesn’t resolve the question of how you get the message out on a large scale and convince people of it. Even if you and I could see through it, he still had plausible deniability, making it not necessarily the most compelling angle to hit people with.