Comment on Brother denies using firmware updates to brick printers with third-party ink

• drzoidberg@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Just saying brother’s ink or toner is first party instantly makes it sound like other brands are inferior.

  No, it doesn’t. Saying third party just means not manufactured by first party, first party being printer manufacturer.

  Would you not buy Baldurs Gate 3 cause it’s a third party game? Would you not buy Call of Duty because it’s a third party game? Do you pay more for gas at ExxonMobil, because Costco sells third party gas for cheaper?

  You buy third party all the time. Saying third party sounds bad is just stupid.

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  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Exactly! The difference with third party is that the manufacturer won’t test it, so you’re relying on the third party to verify that it works.

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• Cocodapuf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Would you rather call it “official” or “certified” or “genuine” toner cartridges? Because that sounds worse to me.

  I mean, they really do need some way to differentiate their product from others. Because they do guarantee that their cartridge works with their printer (and customers would hold them accountable if they did not). They really can’t guarantee that with any others. (simply because they didn’t design the others, haven’t tested them, and have no power to change them if there was a problem. All of which is perfectly reasonable)

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• GaMEChld@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  This is the kind of stupidity that has us reinventing language constantly. Words mean what they mean. To hell with how they make you feel. BLACKLIST WHITELIST 😲 The horror!

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  • bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    feelings are important, though? if i can avoid hurting someone and all it costs me is saying blocklist instead of blacklist, that seems like an obvious slam dunk

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    • GaMEChld@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Your feelings are yours to manage. You say why hurt someone when you can avoid it. I say why get hurt in the first place? Everyone has feelings about everything. No feeling is any more valid than any other feeling.

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      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Exactly. Don’t go out of your way to hurt others, and don’t go out of your way to be hurt. It has nothing to do with race, and it has been used for hundreds of years.

        If someone gets fired while sunburnt, should they be offended by the term “pink slip”? No, that’s ridiculous, because the color in the terminology has nothing to do with race. That’s exactly the same with blacklist and whitelist.

        Now, if there was a racist underpinning there, I’d understand pushing for terminology changes. But there isn’t, so stop finding new ways to be offended.

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      • bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        so you think other people should take responsibility for something they can’t control, but you should have no responsibility for something you can control?

        you can’t stop yourself from feeling sad, but you can stop yourself from doing something that makes someone else sad

        having no concern for the feelings of others is just really irrational and selfish imo

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