Comment on Brother denies using firmware updates to brick printers with third-party ink

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• Cocodapuf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Meh, I think it’s pretty straight forward. It’s just a description of the scenario.

  Mario games are first party content, because they’re made by the same company that makes the console.

  I’ve used printers that don’t have cartridges, instead they just have ink wells you can fill with any ink. You do have more freedom with ink choices, but they’re a different kind of hassle. It’s not simply a better solution.

  (Speaking of solutions, sometimes the ink you buy is more of a suspension than a solution, and it’ll clump up and dry in the feed hoses, a real pain in the ass.)

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  • fishy@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I get what you’re saying but agree with the other guy. Just saying brother’s ink or toner is first party instantly makes it sound like other brands are inferior. Just because you’re intelligent enough to know that’s not true doesn’t mean everyone is. If recent history has taught me anything, it’s that the average person is far less intelligent than you’d assume.

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    • drzoidberg@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Just saying brother’s ink or toner is first party instantly makes it sound like other brands are inferior.

      No, it doesn’t. Saying third party just means not manufactured by first party, first party being printer manufacturer.

      Would you not buy Baldurs Gate 3 cause it’s a third party game? Would you not buy Call of Duty because it’s a third party game? Do you pay more for gas at ExxonMobil, because Costco sells third party gas for cheaper?

      You buy third party all the time. Saying third party sounds bad is just stupid.

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      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Exactly! The difference with third party is that the manufacturer won’t test it, so you’re relying on the third party to verify that it works.

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    • Cocodapuf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Would you rather call it “official” or “certified” or “genuine” toner cartridges? Because that sounds worse to me.

      I mean, they really do need some way to differentiate their product from others. Because they do guarantee that their cartridge works with their printer (and customers would hold them accountable if they did not). They really can’t guarantee that with any others. (simply because they didn’t design the others, haven’t tested them, and have no power to change them if there was a problem. All of which is perfectly reasonable)

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    • GaMEChld@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      This is the kind of stupidity that has us reinventing language constantly. Words mean what they mean. To hell with how they make you feel. BLACKLIST WHITELIST 😲 The horror!

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      • bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        feelings are important, though? if i can avoid hurting someone and all it costs me is saying blocklist instead of blacklist, that seems like an obvious slam dunk

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  • patatahooligan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    but they’re a different kind of hassle

    Can you elaborate on this? I thought they would be straight up better to work with and I was thinking of buying one in the future. Is it just about the drying up issue you mentioned or are there other drawbacks?

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    • Cocodapuf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I mean yeah, most systems with a reservoir are going to use some kind of feed tubes to get the ink to the print head, and tubes just clog; basically, they only have 2 states of existence and one of them is “clogged”. If you do very regular printing, like a full color page at least twice a week, then they aren’t going to clog, but very few people actually print that often.

      Truth be told, I’m just done with inkjet printing all together. At this point I can’t recommend anything but a laser printer, you tend to pay more up front, but then it actually works and it keeps working for a decade or more.

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      • patatahooligan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I see. Thanks for sharing. This will be good to know next time I’m looking for a printer.

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