Dude i am so glad. Discord was always a cancer, i hope this will spell the beginning of the end of discord.
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TommySoda@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Jesus fucking Christ, can I not just enjoy one thing in my life without it eventually turning adversarial?
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
The number of times I’ve been directed to a useless discord chat while looking for help on a topic is infuriating. Can’t wait for this shit to stop.
lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
It also has plenty of utility for non-information-storing purposes. It’s more of a cultural issue than an issue with the tool.
Besides, wouldn’t it take all the information there to its grave as well, making its death a net information loss? After all, information confined it is still information stored somewhere, just not as easily accessible directly from the Web.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
Information that cant be indexed by a search engine is completely worthless to anyone looking for answers. It might aswell not be there.
lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
It’s still information. I agree that it should be available publically, but information available to few is still more than information available to none. I agree that you shouldn’t have to join a Discord server to get that information, but eliminating it entirely so that not even those who do join can access it doesn’t help anybody. It would only hurt a few, but a few is still more than zero.
It’s an issue of culture, so simply eliminating one repository doesn’t fix anything. They’d find some other messaging service to congregate on.
That’s not to say Discord are saints and there is nothing wrong with either their business or their platform. That is a separate issue I think we all agree on.
My point is strictly about the hypothetical deletion of Discord over the drift towards opaque information silos: It won’t help.
bamboo@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Maybe the search engines should start crawling and indexing discord
narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
It would probably take a lot of information to its grave, but the more known “servers” would probably get crawled by archive teams.
Also - assuming Discord wouldn’t be replaced by something equally closed off from easy public access - all new information would be easier to access.
When Discord started, they marketed it primarily as a voice chat software for gaming. I remember them marketing it as “superior audio quality to TeamSpeak” or similar wording (which by the way wasn’t the case). It obviously has chat, video chat and screen sharing conveniently built in which TeamSpeak is only starting to add now in 2025 with the TS6 beta (they seem kind of lost atm).
I always preferred the decentralized nature of TeamSpeak and Mumble though and at least from my own experience, TS tends to work better with fewer connection issues and better autogain and voice leveling.
I don’t like the fact that most people happily gave up decentralized voice chat for a centralized alternative and we still use TeamSpeak in most of my circles to this day.
lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
assuming Discord wouldn’t be replaced by something equally closed off from easy public access
That’s what I mean by issue of culture. I don’t think the habit of gathering on discord-like services to quickly exchange info will change, and if the explosion of bsky is anything to go by, people will just find the next shiny, pretty and well-funded platform that totally definitely won’t enshittify somewhere down the line to pay back their venture capital investors.
We’d be cutting the weed without pulling the root.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Good, that will teach people to use such a shit platform to store “important” information. I hope tons of apps and programs and games crash and burn with it so the lesson sticks.
lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
They probably don’t intentionally use it to store information so much as quickly and conveniently exchange answers and questions. Forums have evidently proven inadequate for that purpose, so unless people find a better solution and make it stick, the lesson sure won’t.
Spaniard@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I don’t know why people trusted Discord, it’s one of the worst platforms and I say this while I use it because I had to settle for that like I had to settle for WhatsApp.
Irc was better for chat, ventilo is better for audio, and matrix is pretty much the same but better. Discord sucks like Twitter did and I can’t wait for it to go away.
Thank God I convinced my fiancee to move our VCs to Wire, away from WhatsApp and Discord.
AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
Discord does exactly one thing not entirely shittily. It puts all those features in one place. It gets beat out in any one feature, but you can run an entire community within a Discord for free. You shouldn’t because it’s terrible at most of that and mediocre at the rest, but it’s free and just good enough if you bludgeon it into shape with tools and bots and stuff.
iopq@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
It’s free because you’re the product
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
you can run an entire community within a Discord for free
Wonder how long this will last. Bet they are burning angel investors money up to now, going public is the first step towards having to become profitable.
arschflugkoerper@feddit.org 4 weeks ago
The best part about discord is the streaming feature. So far I haven’t been able to find a replacement for that.
TommySoda@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I think it’s less about trusting Discord and more about not giving a shit. It does the thing they want it to do and that’s the extent of their consideration. It’s the reason why everyone still uses Windows even though it’s basically spyware at this point. Talking to my friends about it is like talking to a brick wall and they just check out of the conversation.
index@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
One of the reason people here are so insistent about free and open source software is so that you can enjoy things indefinitely.
TommySoda@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
But the problem I keep running into is getting my friends to switch. They’re not very tech literate as they came from console gaming. I could try to educate them but the response I usually get is “why would I switch to something that might not work when this already works perfectly fine?” And I can’t really argue with it. It’s just not even an issue for them.
vii@programming.dev 4 weeks ago
I have bad news for you, it was adversarial from the beginning: www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvNkdAggUGU
iopq@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
No, not until you embrace open source software. It was always going to be enshittified. Just a matter of time
TommySoda@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I’ve already switched to Linux. The problem I have with this is that all my friends, a Discord server of around 20 people, are not going to be willing to switch. It’s been the way we have stayed in contact for the past 5 years.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Your enjoy discord???
TommySoda@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I used to. It’s entirely too easy of a program to use.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Man, it’s one of the worst UI I ever had the displeasure to use…
TommySoda@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I came from skype so my bar was already pretty low. I’m not defending Discord, by the way. I’ve just been using it to talk to my friends for years because they all had Discord and it was convenient.
reiterationstation@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Look for the companies that lead by example. Valve comes to mind. But there’s small businesses out there that do as well.
MrVilliam@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
“No. Fuck you. Pay me. Now pay me more. Now enjoy ads. Pay me again. We’re now introducing fees associated with the privilege of paying me. So pay that while paying me.”
– approximately everything