Comment on Apple refuses to break encryption, seeks reversal of UK demand for backdoor - Ars Technica

• Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Right but…they didn’t provide it. And now they’re not. You wouldn’t call removing that encryption “breaking”?

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  • truthfultemporarily@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    No, because if you know its not encrypted you behave differently than when you think it is.

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    • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      What does your behavior have to do with whether or not the encryption is broken?

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      • FauxLiving@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Social media doesn’t do nuance.

        No encryption was broken.

        Broken would imply that Apple has the ability to decrypt stored user data using advanced data protection. This is not the case.

        Selling you a box to put your stuff in and selling someone else a locked box to put their stuff in doesn’t mean Apple broke into your box. It means your big brother won’t let you have locks.

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      • qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Lemmy is not encrypted, my comments are public, your comments are public, we both know that. Anyone with a raspberry pi or an old netbook can scrape them.

        If I use an encrypted service and all of a sudden everything that I thought was encrypted was decrypted by the service provider without my consent? That’s breaking encryption.

        If on the other hand I use an encrypted service and they tell me that they can no longer offer the service, my data will be destroyed after X days, and I need to find another way of storing my encrypted data because of privacy invading government policies? That is not breaking encryption.

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  • towerful@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    No.
    Users that do not decrypt their storage lose their storage permanently.
    Users that decrypt their storage get to continue to use it, but it isn’t decrypted.

    No encryption is broken.
    Users are swapping convenience for privacy. (Or privacy for convenience? Whichever way that is).

    Broken implies it is unusable or useless. As in “Apples encryption is unusable”.
    This is not the case. It’s not broken. Users are given the option to remove the encryption to be able to continue to use the storage.

    Essentially: xkcd.com/538/

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    • peoplebeproblems@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I always see that one and think “goddamn they’d kill me because I’d never remember the password after the drugs hit, and the more they hit me the less I’ll be able to focus and remember”

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  • Hawke@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Not as it is conventionally used.

    If you break a lock, that’s different from unlocking it and removing it.

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  • kat@orbi.camp ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    That’s not what breaking means…

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