While the number is absolutely very exaggerated, they are indeed losing potential sale revenue.
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Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 day agoYou can’t count all those as missed sales. Plenty of us were never going to buy it anyway. It also doesnt destroy stock. They can still sell their shit the same after we pirate it.
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AkashicOwl@lemmy.world 1 day ago
People need to stop seeing everything in black and white and put themselves in other’s shoes. I’m not siding with anyone. I buy and I don’t.
But if you were the creator, what would you think about your reasoning?
djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 hours ago
Hi, creator here, I license all my music under Creative Commons BY because I don’t agree with the concept of copyright and want people to freely use and enjoy my music. I also don’t really “sell” my work, I just ask for a suggested donation. I’d argue a lot of artists have a similar desire for their work to be spread as far as possible, and shared with as many as possible. Most of the actual money in the music industry goes to corpo suits who specifically want to restrict the ability for people to interact with my music, so they can enrich themselves. In the U.S. at least, that seems to be the norm of the “art industry.” Greedy executives making huge bucks profiting off the work of creatives, while those creatives rarely see the same profits.
Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Oh obviously what this post is about is a gross overreach and devastating to a going life for no reason at all. As a creator I have mulled this. Did I care if people ever snuck into any of my bands shows? No, but we were never famous. Would I care if people pirated the game I’m attempting to make? Once again, I’m not famous or selling anything to the tune of hundreds of thousands, and, I dont care, again. If people are listening to my music, or playing my game, or in anyway just enjoying things I made, I think I could live with that. Its not about the money, its about burring yourself in the collective zeitgeist for ages to come.
AkashicOwl@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I do kind of agree, as I’m making art for myself. But at the same time, maybe that’s because I’m not in a situation where I depend on having to sell what I’m creating is what I mean
Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Thats fine, I am not either. But popular shit is the biggest targeting of pirating. Searching, I found one (1) game, an iOS game, that shutdown supposedly due to pirating. Here is the stack exchange. In the end it was actually due to a technical bug revealed because of the pirated accounts. So yeah, it has been a problem at least once before. But the frequency and depth of the affects seems greatly exaggerated.
lazyViking@lemmy.world 1 day ago
“We were never going to buy it anyway” is a weak argument, considering that the explosion of Netflix, Crunchyroll, and other streaming services (before they turned to shit) proves otherwise.
If piracy didn’t cause financial harm, why did legal streaming platforms dramatically reduce piracy rates when they offered a convenient alternative? The answer is simple: People do pay when given the right option.
And the “it doesn’t destroy stock” excuse? That’s like saying sneaking into a concert isn’t theft because the band still plays for everyone else. It’s still taking something without paying for it.
Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 day ago
How does a streaming service, where you pay a blanket cost instead of choosing individual media, prove people were willing to buy individual media? Do you think the advent of streaming services maybe offer3d the convenience of a bunch of stuff right there to go, instead of having to compile it yourself? I think thats where the true value was.
lazyViking@lemmy.world 1 day ago
So you’re admitting that when given an easy, affordable way to access media, people chose to pay rather than pirate? Congratulations, you just proved my point.
The fact that convenience was a key factor doesn’t change the reality that these services turned former pirates into paying customers. If piracy wasn’t causing financial harm, and if people truly ‘weren’t going to buy it anyway,’ then streaming services wouldn’t have reclaimed those users as paying subscribers.
As for your last line—sounds like you cut off mid-thought. You were about to say something profound about why sneaking into a concert isn’t theft? Go on, I could use the laugh
Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 day ago
No, they turned a shitty service into a good one and the pirates were willing to pay for the platform to access that media rather than surf the seven seas looking all over the place. It wasn’t the media itself that turned them into paying customers, so the record labels and movie studios dont have a point. It was the unified service that brought them in and how cheap it was. As soon as the price raised, the catalogue changed, everyone who was previously a pirate dusted their hats and wind jammers off again and left.
Listening to music isnt theft. You could argue that you are stealing the experience being provided, but you just sound like a stuffy cock saying that shit. Nobody, including the band if they are chill, cares that a few people snuck in, not even other attendees. If you do care so much, then you need some introspection.