Comment on Cloudflare blocking Pale Moon and other browsers with smaller user bases

• pogodem0n@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  “Man in the middle”. They are used by a lot of web services as a proxy, usually to prevent DDOS attacks.

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  • mox@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And when Cloudflare is the proxy for a web site, it’s Cloudflare that provides the HTTPS connection, meaning that you don’t actually have an encrypted channel directly to the site. Cloudflare is the man-in-the-middle eavesdropping on all of your communications with that site. Your bank transactions, your medical records, your personal messages, etc.

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    • msage@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Lol what?

      I thought they just did rate limiting and such, I can’t believe they do SSL as well.

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      • mox@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Have you ever tried to visit a web site and found a Cloudflare error page instead? It might have looked like this:

        webproeducation.org/…/error-524-cloudflare-233e5a…

        Do you know how they’re able to insert that error page into the response that reaches your browser, even though it’s an https connection and your browser assures you that it’s “secure”?

        Clouldflare is able to do this because they are a middle-man between you and the site. They can eavesdrop and/or alter anything sent or received on that connection.

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    • commander@lemmings.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Interesting. I’m going to keep this in mind.

      Weird how much of a monopoly cloudflare has on the internet. I guess it’s going to start being an indicator for me for services that have becomes “too big for their britches.”

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      • mac@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Small companies use CF as well. It really is one of the best ways to prevent all sorts of bad actors

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