Comment on [Louis Rossmann] Brother turns heel & becomes anti-consumer printer company

Xanza@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You sctuallly can’t sell third-party printers legally, because all printers will include an ink fingerprint which can be traced back to that specific printer. So if someone prints a ransom note, the FBI will be knocking on their door by the end of the day.

  There’s literally a certification process to be allowed to sell printers, and one of the biggest criteria for that certification is agreeing to maintain that fingerprint database. The issue is that this certification process also ensures there’s a de facto near monopoly on printers, which leads to BS like HP making it increasingly difficult to use affordable ink. They can be blatantly anti-consumer, because they’re protected from any competition.

  There’s a reason HP hasn’t already been priced out by some cheap Chinese competitor who is able to undercut the competition. And it’s not because of the difficulty in manufacturing or the price of components. It’s because no other companies are allowed to sell printers.

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  • e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You make it sound like a huge conspiracy but there are laws and regulations around everything you try to sell, especially for electronics.

    You also have to do EMF radiation testing, ensure that your printer doesn’t produce toxic aerosols or fumes, and probably a bunch of other things to prove that your product is safe. I don’t see why the fingerprinting isn’t just another thing on the list of things you have to do to be in compliance with the rules. If your company is capable of producing something as complex as a printer, encoding the device’ serial number into a bunch of yellow microdots that you add to the printout shouldn’t be an issue.

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    • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      ensure that your printer doesn’t produce toxic aerosols or fumes

      But they do? I literally got sick after i spent a day in a small room with a big office printer. And each printer makes my skin itchy, if printing in close proximity.

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  • Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Inside the US, sure. That just means you don’t get the cool FOSS printer.

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    • Opisek@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You can still build it yourself.

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      • jdeath@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        yeah let’s build “ghost printers” wait are we in a cyberpunk dystopia?!

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      • frezik@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        AR15 lower receiver model. You can buy a kit that’s 85% of the way to done.

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  • umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    May I have the legal text, of any country, requiring a certification to sell any printers, or have EURion contellation dection implemented, or legally required to implement tracking dots?

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  • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    We have great examples of things sold as parts or kits to be assembled

    Take handguns as an example. If a murder weapon can be assembled from parts with only the frame 3d printed, and avoid similar laws for traceability, surely a printer is an easier task

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  • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You actually can’t sell third-party printers legally, because all printers will include an ink fingerprint which can be traced back to that specific printer.

    All color printers.

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