Comment on 'Have a second look': Surge in motorcycle deaths prompts desperate plea to drivers

• dbilitated@aussie.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  to be honest, as a rider, i always blame myself if i’m in a position to be hit by a car.

  you really have to assume everyone is going to do the wrong thing and ride accordingly. it doesn’t matter if someone wasn’t supposed to do something, someone will eventually fail to see you and you’ve got to plan for it. I’ve had near misses but no accidents - and every near miss was a good lesson in what to look for in future. on a bike road rules are nice to know but you have to monitor everything for threats and make sure you’re always in a safe position. if you ride in someone’s blind spot you’re actively putting yourself in danger.

  having said that, the op comment is an asshole. YES obviously car drivers should be more aware. what the fuck? if you’re obliviously running people off the road you don’t blame them, good lord what a fucking psycho.

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• givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  No, I’m saying it’s weird to ask everyone to care more about someone’s health and safety than that person does.

  Motorcycles aren’t as safe as cars, even if everyone is careful. Accidents happen, and cars have seatbelts, airbags, and a shit ton of other modern inventions.

  Motorcycles have helmets and leather jackets, both of which aren’t required everywhere so motorcyclists don’t even wear them all the time.

  If you cared about motorcyclists, I’d think this time would be better spent trying to make motorcycles safer by pushing for legislation.

  Hell, they made those inflatable cocoons that go off like a giant airbag years ago. I’ve never seen one on the road, because they’re not “cool”. And if someone values safety over coolness, they wouldn’t be on a motorcycle at first

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  • Mountaineer@aussie.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No, I’m saying it’s weird to ask everyone to care more about someone’s health and safety than that person does.

    Now do “provocatively dressed women are asking to be raped…”

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    • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Oh wow, slippery slope?

      People are just busting out the classics today, aren’t they?

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  • dbilitated@aussie.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    but, won’t car drivers being more aware help? if that’s a big factor, wouldn’t it be good to address?

    if i’m reading this right, you don’t think car drivers should have to worry if they’re going to kill someone, because you think that person deserves it due to the risk they personally took on?

    you think it’s too much to expect someone driving a safer vehicle to drive safely and not kill other people? you resent being told to pay basic attention while driving a car because if you hit someone that isn’t also in a car, they might die and that pisses you off?

    wtf?

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    • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      if i’m reading this right,

      Well that’s the thing, you don’t seem like you are…

      And I don’t think I’m going to help you understand, sorry

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      • Zorque@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You seem to be saying that we should worry about making motorcyclists do safer things instead of making car drivers do safer things... which doesn't help too much because wearing a leather jacket or even a helmet will be small comfort when you're run over by an inattentive person in a two ton death machine.

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• unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I can’t stand it when people jump to the “victim-blaming” conclusion; anyone can be the victim, just depends on how you look at it plus it avoids actually responding to the argument

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