Why do think they should be here? Aren’t they just regular parts, just more repairable. They don’t have any extra openness on firmware side, do they?
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icelimit@lemmy.ml 19 hours agoFramework laptops aren’t on this?
nebula@lemmy.ca 7 hours ago
defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 hours ago
No. The FSF is extremely strict on their requirements, so stuff like CPU microcode and proprietary firmware blobs for GPUs cannot be required for the hardware to run and must not be installed by default.
joelectron@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
I understand and appreciate the intention behind this, but I do feel like it makes any list they make less helpful. People are going to buy a computer. Who not point those people to something like a framework, while including a disclaimer about microcode (or whatever the issue is)?
Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 hours ago
Perhaps reframing it helps: this list is helpful because you can show how short it is.
Treat it more like a communication and transparency offensive instead of a buy-this guide.
joelectron@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
You know? That’s a great point and has changed my mind, thank you!
defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 hours ago
They are the uncompromising, principled voice, which can be important to have in society in general. If you would like pragmatism, then other peoples’ recommendations and opinions exist for that.