Comment on We need a list of products we can buy without worrying about telemetry or advertising.
bacon_pdp@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
We already have that it is called respects your freedom.
Comment on We need a list of products we can buy without worrying about telemetry or advertising.
bacon_pdp@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
We already have that it is called respects your freedom.
icelimit@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Framework laptops aren’t on this?
defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
No. The FSF is extremely strict on their requirements, so stuff like CPU microcode and proprietary firmware blobs for GPUs cannot be required for the hardware to run and must not be installed by default.
joelectron@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I understand and appreciate the intention behind this, but I do feel like it makes any list they make less helpful. People are going to buy a computer. Who not point those people to something like a framework, while including a disclaimer about microcode (or whatever the issue is)?
Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Perhaps reframing it helps: this list is helpful because you can show how short it is.
Treat it more like a communication and transparency offensive instead of a buy-this guide.
defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
They are the uncompromising, principled voice, which can be important to have in society in general. If you would like pragmatism, then other peoples’ recommendations and opinions exist for that.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
honestly i’m just amazed there’s ANY sort of actual usable computer on there at all, though of course it’s hilariously expensive and not even in stock
Why do think they should be here? Aren’t they just regular parts, just more repairable. They don’t have any extra openness on firmware side, do they?