Comment on How would a stateless society handle serious threats such as mass murder and terrorism?
BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 2 days agoStates did exist, just because it was the strongest man in the tribe declaring the rules arbitrarily didn’t make it not a state.
Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 days ago
We co-operated, it was never a case of strongest = leader. They alpha shit is inaccurate.
BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
In wolves it’s fake, in humans it’s quite accurate.
It still exists today so don’t tell me it was never a case of the strongest = leader. Drug cartels are effectively states, and ruled by extreme violence (even internally)
Even if your argument were accurate, that would be considered a state. A group of people agreeing on rules together is a state.
Like I said, with few enough people and it could be considered “not a state” but there isn’t any realistic way to have a stateless society of even tens of thousands of people, let alone the millions and billions of people that exist these days.
Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 days ago
No, it is not accurate in humans at all.
Go learn some biology and human history, you are clearly not informed enough to be having opinions here if you’re at the level of thinking alpha is a thing in people.
BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
I mean, if you want a great example, Genghis Khan killed his half brother at 8 years old in order to “secure his family position” then went on to lose a bunch of battles, then win a bunch of wars and murder his way to the top of an empire.
If you don’t think that’s an example of strongest = leader, I don’t know what to tell you.
Modern cartel leaders are very similar in most cases, they’ve schemed, battled, and murdered their way to the top.