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randint@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

While it is possible for democracies to possess authoritarian elements, they are somewhat opposites of each other. Authoritarianism is characterized by the rejection of political plurality, and reductions in the rule of law, separation of powers, and democratic voting. The US embraces plurality and democratic voting, and also has a separation of powers. The government of the US does have its flaws, but it is by absolutely no means authoritarian. You are thinking about another word. While I’m not sure what that word is, ChatGPT suggests that it could be “illiberally democratic.”

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GarbageShoot@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
ChatGPT failed you. In a political philosophical sense, the US is extremely liberal, maybe the most liberal country in the first world (at least if you are white and look cishet, etc). That, however, is exactly the problem, as liberalism places power in the hands of the wealthy.

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- commiewithoutorgans@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  To add on here, the fact that liberalism is a bankrupt ideology which is fully represented by the US including its worst aspects can really not be shown in a comment in such a thread. Domenico Losurdo, in one of my favorite books ever, spends hundreds of pages detailing this in “Liberalism: A Counter History.”
  
  A much more easily digested but still incomplete essay can be found here: redsails.org/between-liberty-and-slavery/
  
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- randint@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  
  ChatGPT failed you.
  
  Yeah, I guessed that when I saw it use the word liberal.
  
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alcoholicorn@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

The government of the US does have its flaws, but it is by absolutely no means authoritarian.

It has more people in prison than any other country, both in absolute and per capita. As for democracy, letting the people choose between two candidates that represent the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie and pass laws accordingly, is not democratic. [This is evidenced by the actions of the that always benefit the capitalist class over the working class.](www.princeton.edu/~mgilens/Gilens homepage materials/Gilens and Page/Gilens and Page 2014-Testing Theories 3-7-14.pdf)

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