Comment on Why Are People Surprised When Trump Actually Follows Through?

• FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  America isn’t the only place with stupid people.

  And, Americans are some of the most heavily propagandized people in the world. it’s subtle, but it doesn’t have to be subtle for it to be effective. It just has to be pervasive.

  Is there a problem with poor education? absolutely. Are stupid people voting for trump? absolutely.

  This isn’t saying Americans aren’t stupid. we are.
  This is a warning.

  it can happen anywhere. And it will happen everywhere people believe it can’t happen.

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  • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    It isn’t just propaganda, though. Our education system has been being slowly dismantled since Reagan and was kicked into high gear with Bush’s No Child Left Behind where they would shut down schools with bad grades. This lead to a lot of grade inflation to make sure schools could actually keep their funding. It hasn’t even been law since 2015 but the effects still reverberate.

    Yes, though, this can happen anywhere. It’s humans that are the problem, not Americans specifically.

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    • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I’m not saying it’s not a problem. I’m saying that stupid people exist everywhere, and yes, you’re right about education being intentionally dismantled to enable all the propaganda to take hold.

      But that can happen literally everywhere. and like falling prey to scam artists (which is really what this is,) if you believe yourself immune, you’re the easiest mark.

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      • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Perhaps I wasn’t clear in my response. I do agree it can happen anywhere.

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  • lobut@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    It absolutely can happen anywhere and that’s the “The Wave” movie was about.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wave_(1981_film)#%3A~%3….

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    • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Somebody else dropped that elsewhere and it made me think of like a very dark version of the Dead Poets Society.

      A, uh. Very dark version. Gonna have to watch it soon.

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  • aturtlesdream@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Speaking as a Canadian, there is also some much arrogance and ignorance about things outside of your country that baffles my mind (not from all but from a large portion of the population). American exceptionalism and decades of really effective propaganda that has gotten increasingly more unhinged from reality and crumbling education system probably isn’t helping either. (I don’t mean that as an insult, every country has issues, and we were very good neighbors and allies until recently)

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    • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      That superiority enables leaders to be assholes. It was an intentional effect of the propaganda, and is a standard part of the Asshole-Authoritatian™️ playbook!

      But, eh, America is truly exceptional- in how fucked up it is.

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  • rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    America isn’t the only place with stupid people.

    That wasn’t the statement that was made.

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    • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

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      Close enough, I imagine. See, for example, German elections where AFD took second, in a record-setting upset in Germany’s elections this week. (they came second only to the conservative party; the good news is that they’re unlikely to be part of a coalition because else in Germany hates nazis.)

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